10.0 Mirage needs to be 10.3

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It’s Amazing how we have the Mirage at 10.0 fighting SUBSONICS with Radar and IR missiles and this is called Balanced?

Explain to me please how this is Balanced because 98% of 9.0 have no Counter measures at all, nor can out run it or out maneuver it but yet Gaijin calls it Balanced please make this make sense when you have the Mirage IIIC at 10.0 has the Works then you have Mirage 5F same thing 10.0 with all the Fixings and then we move over and see the Mirage 5BA has almost Identical specs as the other 2 Jets besides some ordnance but this ones 10.3 make it make sense all 3 of these Jets should be 10.3 based on their Performance alone!

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Br compression. It’s genuinely overpowered against 10.0 and below aircraft but it being 10.3 would make it free food to any 10.3+ aircraft.

That’s not much worse than it facing 1950s subsonic aircraft.

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you say that flareless Mirage should fight a R-73 or Pythons planes?

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I mean, the mirage 3 is from the 60s, so definitely closer to the 50s jets than to the 80s one

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Sorry I completely left out the Br I was actual talking about 9.0 shouldn’t be seeing those 2 Mirages the really only difference is the one gets all the bombing stuff.

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Its compression.

They shouldnt be seeing 9.0s, probably even a few 9.3s, but they also probably shouldnt be seeing most of what is at 11.0 either, certainly no 11.3s.

Needs to go up and needs to go down at the same time

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Okay? Don’t let it get on your tail then.
I can’t think of a 9.0 that can’t beat a Mirage 3 in a dogfight.

There’s no compression here, just needing to learn the basics of avoiding rear-aspect only missiles.
I recommend starting in something easy to make mistakes with like a Mig-19 or F-100.

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I mean… rate figthing the mirage probably doesnt have much of an edge over subsonics it does pull more AOA than most 9.0, but i can think of a 9.3 that certanly cant win it on a dogfight

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No?
There is compression

From F-86A-5 and Vampire to F-5C and J-7D?

Mirage IIIC shouldn’t face current 9.0BR jets such as F-86E(M)
But it also can’t be 10.3BR, since it is weaker than current 10.3 counterparts.

  1. They can still gun you down, just like how the F-104A/C bullies subsonics
  2. Mirage can choose where to fight.
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I’m not talking rate fighting, the Mirage 3 can’t even one circle anything due to the restricted G-limits it has.

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Or many 9.7s either

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Yeah, there are certainly a few at 9.7 that cant do much against a competant Mirage III pilot

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Let’s be realistic you can one circle something like the f86k on the mirage

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Jaguar GR.1 or Milan would have a tough time if they were pursued by a Mirage IIIC

Well, the Harrier GR.3 also might have problems, but at least it can flare Magic

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It’s probably one of the most powerful braindead planes in the game when you get the good matchmaking but so are all the other 10.0 stuff

They need to move the 18g+ missile planes higher, but who knows if that will ever happen

I don’t know how the “flight performance” differs between it and the 10.3 mig, if it’s really an enormous difference I can see it, but not having flares compared to mig is quite a large downside, and while magic 1 is quite an upgrade over r60 and aim9p you overall only have 3 missiles

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Even at 10.3 it’d be lower than the Chinese F-104G lol
People act as if having no flares is the end of the world when it’s pretty standard for 10.0 and even 10.3 has a couple such aircraft

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This counterplay 100% exists, but the issue is 1) its a team game, even if aware there’s always someone who can just come out of nowhere and be within firing range and 2) you have to “pre turn” very early to deal with them this way

Like late in the match yeah it doesn’t seem like a huge advantage but with all the chaos at the start of the match especially the magic 1 allows you to kill someone easily guaranteed and quickly

All the 18g+ missile planes should at least go up by 0.3 rating

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It’s not impossible but it’s a pretty rough downside
Unless the plane is so much better performing in speed/turn and all that(I don’t know), it doesn’t make sense to be same rating as mig 21 with 4 missiles and flares
Mig 21 was originally 10.7 and stupid to move down; they should’ve just left it there and then moved the good 10.0 jets up

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Doesnt take competency when they have magic 1 facing late 40s-early 50s aircraft

Gr1 contemplates doing a matrix (J out) as soon as it sees france on the other side

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Classic compression. Bullies flareless downtiers. Gets mogged all over by all aspects and radar missiles in uptier. Decompression is needed rather than br change.

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