I checked every single link posted in that thread and saw a sum total of 0 proof that the Zerstorer 45 should look any different than, a 103/38 flakvierling mounted on a panzer IV.
So again, proof of HOW and WHY this implementation is unhistorical?
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don’t be fooled guys, this isn’t an spaa, germany already has plenty of them. This is a tank destroyer with 77mm of pen (yes they gave it apcr for whatever the reason is)
because all other spaa have similar pen to this. AMX10p, sub1-2 have dm63 with less 0° pen but much better angle pen. The italian leo 40 has better pen aswell. Even the duster has similar pen at 3.7 or wherever this thing now sits
It still has only 17mm at 60° at 0m because it is apcr
that mount is specifically made for a wierbelwind turret, because it lack it’s gun shield. It’s a mix and match between two iteration of the vehicle.
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Exactly. Makes 0 sense.
I already explained and give my opinion here
Plus i love how Gaijin called this post “new wind” as a reference to the wirbilwind when in real life Mobelwage have nothing to do with the wirbilwind
yes it’s a 2cm flakwierling, but the point remains: the current version lacks a gunshield it should have.
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Exactly this. Just bring them back. Gaijin is only gate keeping them at this point
whirlwind, not wierbelwind.
That’s the problem the guns never met to have shields bc it was never met to be used on a Mobelwage the shields should be provided by the wirbilwind turret configuration
there’s 2 possible versions, a whirlwind style (this one but with a gun shield) and a wierbelwind style, with this mount in an open turret (the one you show).
Honestly? Most likely because they can still add high tier stuff like the M60-120S that’s coming. They probably prioritize such machines over WW2 SPAA for the time being, as the US is a profitable tech tree with lots of whales. And they usually only do one vehicle per tech tree per game mode, so they’re not running out of things to add too quickly. Getting 2 ground vehicles is rare.
Germany doesn’t have all that much left to add, especially in high tier, so it makes sense that they add quirky low to mid tier stuff in between the big things. They didn’t need another SPAA, but it does slot into a little gap and was probably an easy thing to add.
Wørbiwoo, not Whirlwind
Ok, so why Gaijin just dont add the light tanks between 3.3 to 6.7 we are waiting for years???
In rank V and VI germany have a lot of cool options but he we go again with another useless WW2 open top tank.
The most easy way should move Kugelblitz to more than deserved 6.7 and Ostwind 2 can do extremly fine in 5.7 - 6.3 specially if Gaijin remove the mega nerf in pen for germans spaa but
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wait, is this refering to ordinary AP rounds aviable to kugel or will this thing get sabots?
Your bullshitting, right?
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It gets the same HVAP Kugel have iirc, but it seems like unlike the nerfed belt Kugel got, this will have full HVAP belt the Kugel once used to have.
god I hope they give the Kugel its full belt back
You dont like 1 in 3 being HVAP and the other two being useless HEI-T?
Not in particular