i dont get what is the criteria used to put this thingat 10.0, the atgm is barely sufficient at 7.7 wich is where you find early ones with 600mm of penetration, the mobility is below avarage but the biggest problem is the size, this veichle is so big because inside has a layer of spall liner all around to protect passenger, and in game is completely missing making just a giant rp pignata to shot anywhere to get rp, the autoloader of 4 seconds does not help considering the miserable performance of atgm anyway
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Cope.
It’s underBRed if anything
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how is this under br? seems like a chinese version of the BMD4 with a weaker atgm and stronger autocannon, however bmd4 sits at a lower tier
zbd04a (10.0) = 101mm pen. autocannon; 600mm tandem atgm 370 m/s 4,86kg-tnt
bmd4m (9.3) = 81mm pen. autocannon; 750mm tandem atgm 370 m/s 4,86kg-tnt
i’ve seen zbd04a in battle at 10.0 and honestly its not performing bad at all but the difference in penetration for the atgm while at higher br surely would make it struggle more against opponents that bmd4 atgm would also have trouble
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BMD-4 is also under br’d heavily. I’d argue they can both sit at 10.0 or 10.3 and be fine.
9.7*
it misses spall liner and 150mm of penetration ATGM, it is at same br of sweden IFV with spall liner 180mm of penetration and more armor
you forgetting the most important thing, the size, this thing is so big because it has a full spal lliner coating inside and the size itself should prevent oneshot but this is not happening, im dying from hit in the empty space behind just because it just produce too much sharpnel when hit
you mean 9040C? Cuz it has 170mm pen with gun at point blank range and only has 24 shot ready-rack while having no secondary gun and ATGM. It also sits at a higher BR than ZBD04, 10.3. Also, ZBD has IRST track against air targets while 9040C has to rely on MK1 eyeball, only redeeming quality is proximity fuse HE shells against and it only works against low&slow targets or extremely close ones.
most of the times is useless the irst track, it absolute don’t make up for the absent survivability, extreme size, terrible atgm, the 9040 autocannon outclass this entirely
It’s a Chinese BMP-2M/M3A3.
BMD4 is a vastly inferior vehicle, this is common knowledge.
11.0 M3A3 looking wild.
Dimensions wise both vehicles are virtually same, ZBD04 is maybe slightly longer by 50cm and that is it. While 9040C has superior gun performance when comparing individual shots, volume of fire you can provide at a certain time periodis nowhere near ZBD04 whether you like it or not. You always have to watch out for your ready-rack count. Both vehicles have ups and downs that arguably negates the difference and they have extremely similar BRs showing that.
there is a massive difference, the survivability, zbd04a should have spall liner all around inside, 9040 have great survivability and great gun not to mention way better armor
Both have paper armor against anything that fires APFSDS so I don’t really see your point how 9040 has better “survivability”. As for spall liners, you can always make a bug report and they are only good for 1 hit after that both vehicles are just swiss cheese. Maybe just maybe 9040C can resist APDS from autocannons and that would be the only real advantage of those heavy composite screens on it compared to ZBD-04A. Rest will go through all the same.
If anything ZBD-04A is more survivable thanks to it’s better mobility. Strf9040 is just a sad excuse as a light tank/ifv in that regard.
There are some reasons that ZBD04 doesn’t have the same ATGM as BMD4, which is why it performance is pretty bad, and also its mobility is not as good as BMD4 but close to BMP3. Maybe it should be considered as 9.3 as Begleitpanzer 57
Anyone comparing ZBD04A to BMD4 hasn’t used the ZBD04A. Think of ZBD04A as a juiced up BMP3 - armour-wise, mobility-wise. Ultimately, I wouldn’t use it over AFT09 with its 4x ATGM that nuke Leopard2A7.
9.7
Honestly, I think the 04A is still pretty fun at BR 10.0 (I currently really enjoy playing various nations’ 9.7 and 10.0 vehicles—ru, cn, and ita), over 26 power-to-weight ratio (though the gear-shifting/drivetrain logic is suck, making it feel off when driving in wt), but its acceleration is still quick. 04A is one of the few 2A70-series 30mm autocannon uses apfsds. nowadays at BR 9.x, apds tend to shatter easily, whereas apfsds is more stable and effective upon penetration.
As for protection, it’s pretty average now (the front used to be decent, but a few versions back, a update changed the large-angle upper front plate armor to aluminum alloy, which basically eliminated ricochets). Back when the 04A was in the dev server, the great “鸭脖王” XD submitted an issue requesting an ATGM with ~700+ penetration, I remember it got accepted… but yet they never actually added it in the end.
besides, it has dual high-definition thermal imagers and an excellent commander’s sight (the gunner’s sight used to be great too…—I think it was 3-10x?—but it got changed to 6-10x now （from unknown source）). Its optics are among the best in the game for 100+30 systems , though I’d love it if future bmp3 or bmd4 variants got APFSDS rounds，it’d be amazing(I remember seeing a version of the Berezhok system on the body of a bmb3 or bmd4 before)