That’s awesome! Could you please ask whether Spikes will be integrated into the Mangart 30 system, and if the Mangart 25 will be equipped with its own anti-aircraft missiles?
Also, while you’re there, would it be possible to take some photos of the Puch-G with the Strelets (9S846) missile system—assuming that’s even allowed? It’s an older weapon donated by Russia in 2010. Since then, it has only been seen during a single exercise in 2014 and at a few public open days at the Cerklje ob Krki Barracks, the most recent of which was in April last year. As a result, only a handful of photos of this vehicle exist online—mostly on the Slovenian Armed Forces’ official website or their Facebook page.
Strelets barely visible at the last years Cerklje ob Krki Barracks open day:
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You got it! I’ll see what i can do! Since both the Mangart 25 and Mangart 30 are so new, I couldnt find much info about the systems. I did have the fortune of seeing the Oshkosh Mangart 25 fire exercise in Poček.
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I never saw Missiles mentioned for Mangart 25 so I doubt
Pictures from a May 9th, 1985 parade in Belgrade. Source
Spoiler
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Apparently this rubber actually worked against RPG-7s.
Also, my dude. If you are including North Macedonia you might wanna include T-72A and BMP-2.
I disagree, the point of standalone tech trees is that they are unique especially in places where they can be.
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I agree that the Macedonian T-72A may be unnecessary; however, the BMP-2 could be a worthwhile addition, especially since no other Yugoslav nation used it.
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Again, it is not unique to Yugoslavia.
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Well then delete maybe 80% of that tree.
Besides, the dude clearly said North Macedonia is included. Aside, from T-72A and BMP-2 it has nothing else to offer.
Majority of the tree is unique in some way. I disagree with some non unique options yes. As for Unique variants like of T 55 or Sherman or T 34 those are fine. As for Macedonia I do not know what they can offer. I think there was one wheeled unique vehicle.
It’s ultimately up to the suggestion’s author and Gaijin to make any final decisions, my job is to propose ideas.
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Well yes I did not state otherwise. It is unfortunate though how Gaijin treats the tech trees recently will all of the copy-paste vehicles across the nations and we can voice our disagreement or agreements on here or any appropriate platform. I did not say either of authors did a bad job. They both clearly did a really good research and it shows they put a lot of time and energy into it.
Kudos to that.
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On the topic of North Macedonian ground vehicles, they operated a somewhat unique variant of the T-55A. After the 2001 insurgency in the Republic of Macedonia, 35 of their T-55A tanks were sent to Ukraine for modernization to the T-55AM-1 standard. However, only a partial upgrade was carried out. The tanks received an improved fire control system (FCS), a new engine, newly installed wiring, smoke grenade launchers, and rubber side skirts, but they did not receive the planned add-on armor package. Shortly after their return to the Republic of Macedonia, all but one of the modernized tanks were scrapped. The sole surviving tank is now displayed in front of the Tetovo barracks. While this modernization isn’t as unique as the Slovenian or Serbian, I believe it still makes for a better candidate for the Tech Tree than a copy-paste T-72A or BMP-2.
Only a single source exists and it’s a Paluba forum page:
The sight looks the same as original so I’m not sure if the vehicles actually received new FCS
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That is excellent news : D.
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Wasn’t there also a North Macedonian patrol boat?
I tried looking for info on it but couldn’t find anything
Do you mean Type 301 patrol boats? They were built at the Naval Technical Repair Institute (RMTZ) “Sava Kovačević” in Tivat, Yugoslavia. They were part of the lake company and served as lake border patrol boats on Lake Skadar (PČ-301, PČ-302), Lake Ohrid (PČ-303, PČ-304) and Lake Prespa (PČ-305, PČ-306). I don’t think they received any unique modifications in Macedonian service.
https://myownonpmirror.com/ships/macedonia/mace_cf_301.html
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Darn, thanks for the info, only way I could see it added as maybe a premium.
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According to the author of the video linked below, the tank was referred to as the “OR-1”, while the version with rubber skirts was called the “OR-2”. Both lacked smoke launchers and likely used the older TPD-2-49 sight. This leads me to believe the author may have misidentified the vehicle as a T-72M, when it was more likely a T-72 Ural.
P.S The video in question: https://youtu.be/wLQteeCfvNM?si=OekS6bD87Sn-WySf
It will explain every single type of T-72 that was in service with Yugoslavia.
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