Post: Shall we have a look on a problem*
Average reply: How dare you be disrespectful to my beloved mother Russia!!! (Raging like if somebody just insulted their entire family bloodline)
it looks to me its a 10.3-10.7 battle, in which Britain has like, same amount of machines as USSR?
I mean US has less in the tech tree than both britain and USSR…
(forgot to 2x the 72B so keep in mind)
I do believe neither of USSR players did use all of those techs, they had several backups and played like 4 different machines at best :/
Do you understand why people complaint about it? Because frontal part much better protected. When you see tank from left/right side, there is no issue, even though WT moments happen. But as soon as they in front of you, having bushes, and driving/moving may ruin your kill. I had moments when shell didn’t kill squad or fuel box tanked, that’s quite often though. 1cm up - ricochet. Turret protection again, better than any other western tanks + instantly damaged horizontal drives and knocked crew affecting reload rate of Leos and Abrams. That’s what people hate about T-series tanks.
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Nah you see since Leo/Abrams has much better mobility and reload you should just flank those T-Series and catch them off guard easil according to their claim, problem is most maps are so small that you will counter enemy tanks in flank routes most of the time.
Still Leo/Abrams are better tanks in my book, even with their unhistorical nerfs.
Yep, everyone hate this and everyone don’t wanna speak up about this. Once someone ever mention this…one specific group of players would bomb you with “skill issue” because they wanna keep their wheelchairs in this game forever.
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Not to mention the amount of urban CQB maps, trying to peek, shoot and then get back into cover in Russian MBTs ain’t a winning prospect.
They like to use the “holding W” as an insult, but it’s often the only way to play, you need to charge out shoot and keep going forward to the next cover position, trying to reverse back into the previous one is a death sentence.
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Open maps are both curse and blessing for Russian tanks due to their design.
120S is a joke, those who takes it to battle … masochist. Big, slow, calling shoot me . Doesn’t make sense to put in crew
Mid CRV Block-2 mentioned.
Its not a bad tank tho, and if its about “we ran out of tanks, went to SPAA”, its being in lineup could change some things. I mean it has decent protection in turret and crazy shot for its rank. I like it at 10.3 lineup on some maps
I dont know how to interpret this
Indeed, the Russian/Soviet MBT’s that on average have:
- Worse acceleration.
- Lower top speed.
- Significantly worse vertical gun traverse.
- Slower turret traverse.
- Abysmal reverse.
- Terrible reverse steering.
- Slower reload.
- Fewer crew.
- Worse ammunition stowage.
- Massively worse gun depression.
Have an advantage in frontal armour protection, and even then that is easily bypassed with basic weakspot knowledge and basic aim.
And that is not even mentioning the fact that 3/4 times you can simply overmatch side armour, making the frontal armour advantage entirely pointless.
So it’s just a coincidence that the people who share the opinion of Arcttic and yourself almost exclusively have below average stats, whilst the players who disagree with the statement on average have good/excellent stats?
The difference is that you’ve never played high tier Russia, whilst I’ve played high tier Russia, USA, Germany and Britain.
Typical ‘‘Grass is always greener on the other side’’ -type argumentation, and before you accuse me of just wanting my Russian MBT’s to dominate again, let me remind you that my #1 most played tank is an M1A1 Abrams.
But this seems to be rather common, where the people who think Russian MBT’s armour plays a significant role are the ones who only face them, and have not played these MBT’s themselves.
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Game doesn’t award you to use several tanks in line-up. Non-premium user will die with 1st pick, takes 2nd and dies again. As the result negative SL balance. Sometimes I take free vehicle and do kills, but it’s situational. I play aggressively and die often, game punishes me, but sitting 20 minutes in battle not profitable at all
My good sir, I didn’t even mention Russia in my reply. Maybe I was talking about US mains?
Soviet tanks so “weak” but looking at 10.7+ BR red push shows opposite. Sorry but all those weaknesses should not make 300 -400 queue, perhaps red weaknesses in War Thunder actually advantages.
Really? Cuz your post before that was pretty specific.
Its debatable?
The game`s earning mechanic circles around ingame time so making more = staying more. However, you also right that several 0-kill spawns will lead only to spending more sl than earning. So that does not mean you dont get awarded for several line-up tanks - it means you get awarded for several resultative tanks in line-up
However its not the point either, as the author of this thread wants us to believe that he lost that game because NATO side has less respawns avaliable, which is only true if we count ALL the event and premuim machines AND dont even think of using backups.
There were two separate replies, and he was referring to the another one.
so, why were there a 200-men lines when they added 2a4 123?
i mean surely if its that bad for nato, there`s no way such existed…
eh?
You could try actual arguments on the pros and cons of the tanks you know, might cut down on the “misunderstandings”.
It was long time ago. Before they added BMPT, there was bigger queue because of T80UE1, then BMD4M, now B3 Arena and add here the strongest missiles KH38 and LMUR. This combo makes soviet nation number 1 to play. Oh, and take Pancir to intercept all bombs and missiles because radar and missiles allow it. What nation can give so many powerful gameplay