But lets be honest… if u play a 4 man squad with any good CAS… its not just the Yak9K that is utterly broken. The only difference here is mostly that the Yak9K is on such a low br… its the first really powerfull CAS people encounter, so it can really shred these low exp teams apart.
Thats not the APHE but the 45mm, almost same goes for the 37mm.
But historically many vehicles had some sort of downsides. He 177 had overheating engines, german tanks where hard to repair, A13 had overheating issues… the list goes on for decates.
But do u want that in the game? Best with real repair times? :D
Same for Crew or Tank damage on jumping or driving against obstacles, or just making the gunbarrels have impact with the Environment that would seriously slow down the game… wouldnt like that tbh.
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So far as i gather, this 45mm APHE shell is the KH38MT of ww2. As in it wasn’t used and its existence itself is dubious as even the document linked way above does not contain an armor-piercing high-explosive shell.
If it did not exist, it should be removed.
If it was some experimental shell post-war, that was used with the Yak-9K then it should be moved up in br, as we have separate battleratings for ground and air for a reason.
If it never saw a Yak-9K, but was experimentally used with a different post-war aircraft, then it should be removed from ALL ww2 aircraft it is present on, in game.
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And why should stuff that didnt exist be removed? Its a game… it also didnt existed that a Longrange bomber spawns magically at 3km and drops a 5ton bomb in the middle of an city that is accorpied by enemy and friendly foes.
neither are the top mounted Guns magically fired in RL without someone actually opening the hatch and putting hands on it to fire it. (at least not on old tanks)
Or is a barrel replaced in 8 seconds.
or is AA purposely used to attack and move towards enemy Tanks…
or had an Console Player autoaim…
or the opposide, some modernish tanks have lead indicators or lead themself on moving targets or track enemy tanks completely by themself, u want that? like the one click kill CAS shit?
At the end its a game, that should be fun to play, right? A bit of unrealism is needed to Archive that and balance stuff out.
And at the very end… what is real and what not? U have the secret documents laying around in your house? I dont.
I’ll be taking this for myself then.
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For balance the Yak-9K need something more than move to 5.7. Im using that plane in 6.3 and is performing better than most of the other CAS planes in that BR.
I suggest just remove the APHE or a big nerf in his penetration and accuracy like usally (always) he do with similar Germany planes.
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because Gaijin has set requirements for what weapon systems are eligible for addition and what are not.
Based on these requirements, Gaijin has denied the addition of a lot of weapon systems.
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Whataboutism or moving goalposts doesn’t help your argument here, especially when it comes to significant differences regarding game mechanics or vehicles and armaments that either don’t exist or never saw use on a specific platform.
Just like there’s no evidence to substantiate the existence of the Kh-38MT, there’s also next to nothing for the APHE that the Yak-9K gets to use to run roughshod over its BR range.
Both need to be removed. It’s that simple.
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If you need evidence on everythink… we have thousand of vehicles ingame… how many of them have or had secred documents about modules, mechanics ammo and so on… if u want Realistic values in a Competitive PvP Game… u maybe should considering a different game. As this game is focused on Gameplay and not realism… i still have my tiger 10.5, pamther 2 and coelian… also the maus as far as i remeber never acutally drove anywhere or was ever completed with its suppossed to have parts… many planes never flew or where not finished, many stuff is just prototype ingame… i wonder where the hell ure supposed to get these documents to make it realistic? U cant, its that simple. And u cant proof the APHE was never build for the ns-45. Its around 80 years ago… who knows what was build and not… and if u only want production vehicles with knows charakteristics and modules… well then hundrets, maybe thousands of vehicles have to go.
Its okay if u dont wamt it because of reasons… but at the end i dont care as long as its balanced. And yes the NS45 aphe is not… thats smt i can agree on. But removing them for the reason u have no proof of it? Nah…
Except a single Yak-9K with very careful shots can kill the same amount of vehicles, no matter if they’re heavy or medium tanks as a squad of 4 people with normal fighters. Most fighters barely even have good bombloads save for the P-47 and for smaller bombs need far more precision with human movement from the opponent also counted into it. After they run out of bombs, then their armament atmost will only tickle medium and heavy tanks. But the elephant in the room is still the fact that they all need to slow themselves down with those armament loads, making them an easier target to shoot down. Being able to one-shot consistently with far smaller margin of error in a FIGHTER and straight up no mobility loss is the problem with the Yak-9K.
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And you say this game focuses on gameplay, not realism?
If that’s the case, why do they model stuff like position of fuel tanks and the mass of fuel within those fuel tanks dynamically affecting the handling characteristics of an aircraft at fuel levels nobody will ever play at seriously?
If that’s the case, why do they model so many other tiny things about aircraft handling, including unique solutions to peculiarities of propeller plane combat like the C.205 serie 1 having assymetric wings which reduces pilot workload in flight?
Like sure, modern jets are questionable.
And sure, mission design is also questionable.
But there’s a pretty robust physics engine for aircraft all things considered. Been playing IL-2 lately, and honestly WT’s FM feels comparable outside of lack of wind (which WT has had, just turned off)/turbulence/ground handling and automated engine controls.
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What?
Wtf… this game has many gamemodes… its not even on ypur screenshot that its a team or PvP game… so much to your screenshot…
And there is a difference between being realisitc and just having the optucal models.
This game is mostl, about the optics and making stuff behave roughly like they did or do in rl or what people expect them to do while being stilla game.
I gave in the previous post enough argumetnd why a 1:1 Realistoc game is not feasable.
you called yourself a “veteran” in other posts of yours. You know it fully well what requirements Gaijin has for the addition of vehicles and weapon systems. Dont pretend you don’t.
We are not even talking about prototypes. We are talking about mockups and a non-existent aphe shell.
For something to be added, it has to be proven that it existed first, not the other way around.
At this point, you are just pretending to be ignorant and spamming dumb posts.
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What is an “optucal”?
If you mean “the model looks like it and nothing else matches”,
then why does handling characteristics change with different fuel amounts when flying P51D? Last I checked, handling characteristics have nothing to do with optics and are a integral part of core gameplay loop (your plane trying to kill you is pretty integral, no?)
I never said i would support adding not excisting stuff mate. Dont change words around i never said.
I always said i dont mind it and i only want one from the devs… and that is balance.
And just because U say it didnt excisted dosnt mean it never excisted.
And yes i know gaijin adds stuff usually on a reallife base, but not with reallife values… as i said already before, and thats also how it should be, for balancing reasons as i said before…
There is ton of stuff that vehicles had in RL and is not added, so why would i want an APHE removed just because U dont have the secret documents of it. Wtf.
If its to strong, it should be fixed. That all i want and ever wanted. And that what i think is best for the game.
Jea sorry, writing on phone between work…
I mean the models, the optical, that u can see, combined with the characteristics.
But charakteristics cant be 1:1 in the game as they are in RL. They can only try to make it as close to the average of that vehicle as the gameplay allows.
And for me thats absolutely fine. As Making it to realistic would make the game even less enjoying. Amyone who wants 1:1 realism is really playing the wrong game here.
A community that scours archives for documents and leaks classified ones will find it if it’s real. And they tried. The best they could come up with was one that was uploaded way above and does not mention aphe.
So buddy, until Gaijin proves that this aphe existed, its just another case of unneeded, balance-breaking, overpowered fantasy element that buffs Russia exclusively as such exceptions have yet to be made for any other nation.
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So you got shot down. As all weapon in game can shot down a plane. What preciesley is your point here?