which is a leopard 1 problem not an all tanks problem
battleratings arent based on penning 1 low armored tank frontally and then not penning anything else frontally
maybe you should have asked leopard 1 designers to add some more armor, they decided to not care because they thought the heat era would end all armor
theres tanks that are strong against the xm800t and theres ones that are weak
it is just how the game works
maybe they werent thinking 10 years ahead…
yea youre right, but they are based on performance. and when a recon vehicle is destroying entire teams thats called overperforming.
they weren’t and thats not our problem
the leopard 1 is unique in a way where it is balanced to have trash armor but great gun and ammo and other qualities
as such, yes the leopard 1 will have issues against things that shoot at it however it is very good against tanks with heavy armor etc
and xm800t shouldnt go up in a br because it is strong against leopards weaknesses
it is also weak against armor of many tanks at the battlerating
feel free to tell me how common this is with a source because i have a feeling this is just as uncommon as any other light tank with fast cannon doing it
What is your reasoning for XM800T having higher br than Marder 1A3 or same br as Warrior and making it face 9.3 tanks like, T-72, ZTZ96, VBCI or CV9030FIN
This thing has 65mm penetration. Similar to Wiesel, Marder etc. No way its BR should be higher.
I mean 65mm pen? There are BR 3ish vehicles with more powerful autocannons.
the marder 1a3 is extremely slower, and forced to face tanks head on.
you have the type87rcv at 7.7 and has nowhere near the same k/d as the xm800t.
the fact you can get to certain places unnoticed makes it a lot better than most.
not to mention the stabilizer that gives it an advantage against other fast firing lights. the warrior you mention for example has no stab.
makes up for it with remote turret that can be put behind bush, the extreme amount of depression for gun and a missile
however youre gonna have to aim for the turret while the warrior can just ding you center of mass a bit and youre dead due to high density of crew
shoot an aphe at that turret and see what happens, same with the atgm.
yes because shooting a light with no stab makes you at a disadvantage. not to mention the top speed and acceleration of the warrior.
good luck hitting those. very difficult to see, especially with the bush
or the same we can say, shoot an aphe at the xm800t and see what happens
the armor also gives the xm800t a disadvantange, youre gonna have to aim at a way smaller spot and if you hit the armor youre not going through
like i said the xm800t is also small, it only needs 1-2 hits and it is dead, center of mass
if youre driving fast you will most likely have a problem hitting the small turret of warrior while the warrior is slow, it can stop fast and won’t need stab to hit you
and again, the atgm gets me kills more than deaths, it is a net positive and would be one on xm800t too
youre biased in your arguments and youre trying to downplay the advantanges of warrior for the benefit of your argument and it is pretty clear
and i also asked you for proof of your earlier claim which you still havent responded to
i guess i face very lucky players.
maybe YOU have a hard time hitting something with a stab. xm800t wins against the warrior 90% of the times.
you have the type87rcv at 7.7 and has nowhere near the same k/d as the xm800t.
just go to thunderskill and see for yourself
indeed. the atgm is very small even at 10 meters
now at engagement distances of 100m or more, i never have people even attempt to aim at the atgm
if youre driving a xm800t at max speed youre probably not going to hit a small target very much unless if youre in a test drive against a target that isn’t shooting you
interesting percentage. do you have a source for it?
were not talking about the type87rcv
you dont have to aim at the atgm with aphe, you just aim at the turret.
“show me proof” “oh were not talking about that”
make up your mind dude
or just aim the aphe at the xm800t
boom
i asked you proof on your claims of the warrior and you switched to talking about type87rcv
Everything between 6.0 to 8.0 is a joke ,mickey mouse USSR prototypes,Star Trek US tanks
If you expect same devs that placed tank with 400mm pen to balance game …you should seek help
at which case the remote turret argument goes out the window.
its the same thing, or better yet, its even worse.
any argument goes out of the window when we go with the “shoot this tank. boom, it died”
which was your logic, and thank you for confirming that your logic is pointless
youre talking nonsense here. wanna give proof for the statistical claims. where did you get source for the 90% of time claim?
did you make it up?
no your logic was “it has a remote turret so its better” to now “both tanks get shot they die”
yea youre right, looking at the kd ratios its only about 50% better
the remote turret is definetly better than the turret ofxm800t it is a way smaller target, it is easier to hide and harder to kill the tank through at range
and now your argument was “shoot aphe at it and it dies”, sure and shoot aphe at xm800t and it dies
the difference here is players will have way more difficult time shooting the small turret of marder at range especially if its bushed up compared to xm800t
also the depression difference is huge allowing marder to shoot from weird positions that the xm800t cant shoot from
skill issue of players isn’t my problem
for example on thunderskill the british jas39c is 1.71kd
and the swedish jas39c is 2.11kd which is roughly a 25% difference over the SAME PLANE
that could be explained by 1 being the last in the line and the other not.