XM800T the rat that is single handedly ruining the entire br range due to the prevelance of light tanks… Excelent mobiity + stabilizer + apds is op
- Move UP XM800T br
- Keep at same br
- Limit number of spawns
- Just nerf apds
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I think we need some BR decompression, because if it goes Up, it’ll be like the bradley but more mobile and less ATGM-y and more cannon RoF-y.
If it goes down, say adios to anything it faces that is a light tank, cos its stabiliser is coming to town and hammering everything.
So, I’m advocating for some decompression
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The biggest problem I have with them and it’s applicable to most light vehicles is the fact that they are completely silent up until they’re spotted by someone’s crew thanks to the crap keen vision mechanic.
So they can be completely stealthy up to super close distance and there’s no way for you to tell that they’re coming, they’re easy to pick from afar if you can spot them in time and can aim well, but in close Quarter the 50°/s turret rotation and the high damage done by the 20mm to tracks and cannons gives you only 1 chance if you’re lucky to hear it coming to kill it, otherwise you’re done if no one helps you.
That being said, I don’t think that it going up or nerfing it would help, everything comes down to map design and ability to navigate it and scan targets, sound is playing a major role in urban environments and the game is designed in a way that it takes that element from you more often than not so it leads to these super frustrating moments.
The XM800 is a good light vehicle, but you have many light vehicles that are way more dangerous due to their armament at the br, albeit the xm800T surclass almost anything in the mobility department.
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Nah, a vehicle should not be punished for having good ability to flank.
Its a one trick pony.
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I support every action to hurt xm800 players
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… bro what lol
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I think it and Fox are fine at their BRs.
8.0 is already decompressed so I see no reason why people are dying to either Fox or XM800 if they’re in any medium tank.
When the tank was announced I said that it shouldn’t get AP so that it could be a dedicated SPAA at like 6.0. Autocannons create a lot of balance issues.
Just leave it alone. Vehicles like it are there to punish people who play nothing but boring vehicles.
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Skill issue
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people complain about the fox when that thing is silent and far more spammy
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its just fine, but a bit higher in battle rate is fine too
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idk about that
the USH/RaketenAutoMat/Fox and LRF Artillery exist around here
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Ah yes, The OP APDS, The OP APDS with 10mm more pen than HVAP, The OP APDS with terrible angle pen just like HVAP, The OP APDS that exists on 2 AA’s at 5.3/6.3, The OP APDS that the Marder 1A3, Luchs A2 and Wiesel 1A4 also get but somehow magically sucks when they get it despite being the same.
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Yeah the mobility and stabilization combination makes a vehicle quite effective, specially at this battle rating range where you’ll not find dual axis stabilizer in most vehicles, but the APDS is not the key factor,
Combining the engine and power-to-weight ratio is what makes the XM-800T a very effective and aggressive vehicle in War Thunder not the armament yet being equally efficient for the platform, if the XM-800T is annoying for you I can’t imagine if the XM-800T TOW was in-game.
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unfortunately ,your topic will most likely get closed and the mods will just ask you to discuss this somewhere else.
I have made a similar one in the past, it got locked imediately when i tried to adress the same issues you faced.
It’s not only the XM800T ,but the feeling is similar,and that specific tank is a lot more present.
I’ve had a game where the enemy team had 8 of them , and they just swarmed us to the spawn. By the time we got out of our spawn zone they were already flanking us. And you can’t hear them well either.
My point is, one or two aren’t a problem,but when everyone just picks it because it’s a points maker to get something else , it does not matter that you die , even if you got 3 kills and just died immediately after,you made a lot more than the enemy did.
Now do this when there are 6-7 of them in one match at the start.
I’d argue the Fox is in the same area.
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This is just call of duty brrrrrt mentality
@MasterOfUltramar not really,it can shoot planes , it can cap points very fast, it can flank very well , it can rotate it’s turret faster than 80% of tanks.
I wouldn’t say that is an one trick pony
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You forgot sone Important aspects
Firerate:
XM800T: 1050 r/pm
Marder,Luchs/Wiesel: 800 r/pm
Stab:
XM800T, Yes
Wiesel: No
Marder 1A1: No
Marder 1A3: No
Luchs: No
Ammo Belt:
XM800T: DM63 belt Contains ONLY APDS
Marder,Luchs/Wiesel: DM63 Belt contains 3x APDS, 4th is an HEFI-T
TVD:
XM800T: No
Marder 1A1:No
Marder 1A3/Luchs: Gen.1
Wiesel 1A4: Gen.3
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Mf making my AMX-10RC unusable
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