Is that not one of the reasons “no armor is best armor” exists?
the only reason 246 is better than gepard is the barrel placement and has more armor
thats like it tho its slow as hell and bigger target than gepard
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My brother in christ, it has the same exact belts as every other KDA armed vehicle but without the APDS rounds. The literal only difference in ammo is that it does not get APDS, that is directly worse than the APDS armed KDA equipped tanks.
Tell me, which one of these belt lists is the XM246, Type 87 and ZA-35, and dont go looking at the belt prices, I will know.
The RCV(P)'s centerline tire does not turn my guy, it has 3 degrees of play, it is the same as the second axel of the LAV-AD, only the front wheels provide actual turning power, the Type 16 by comparison can angle the second set of wheels enough to actually turn.
Please, stay in your delusion, maybe some day you can actually learn how the underlying components of this spaghetti machine of a game function.
Sure my guy, you still said overmatch, its not, and the documentation for overmatch can be found extremely easily. I do find it funny that you gracefully just ignored M774 bouncing off the front plate, guess it does not align with your narrative you are spinning.
Ah yes, the reload change that literally no US player was asking for. People wanted functional hull armor on the M1s like it historically should have, instead gaijin just slapped a reload change on it and left. The same thing occurred with the Ariete and the Merkavas, and guess what, nothing has changed for any of them, they all still need armor improvements, the reload buff fixed functionally nothing on them.
Hmmm lets see, with a quick search for the Gepard I can find one from a year ago, one from two years ago, one back when it was release and one 10 months ago. Yeah thats a long time ago my guy, the ItPsV and ZA-35 have Spook playing them, but only about 3 more videos beyond that and those are all 10 or more months ago.
And then we have the XM246, which I can find a total of 8 videos all under a month about it, curious.
I will say, they are playable now. The 5s reload did make them a lot better.
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I would heavily question if the top tier Merkavas are really playable, the Airetes still implode under a weak breeze, the M1s did benefit the most as they were the best off of the 3, but still, they all needed armor tweaks, not reload tweaks, the primary reason why all 3 vehicles suffer was not addressed.
just want to bump the thread and say that XM800T has a belt that is wrong. why has it got german ammo when its an American testbed?
also where is its LRF?
move to 8.7 and take away the APDS so its accurate and with other vehicles of its insane ability
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The Merkava Mk.4’s are actually, dare I say, good. They’re insanely survivable and have some pretty trolly armor, with a good dart to boot. I’ve been playing nothing but the Mk.4M lately and I have been loving it. As for the Arietes, they are still bad, and I think each Ariete could do with a 1 BR step decrease.
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Move it to 8.7 and make it completely fckin useless? You do know how bad 20mm HVAP is, right?
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LRF, mobility better than literally every other vehicle in the game by a country mile and extreme ROF. you also don’t need much more pen than a 50 cal to tear at that BR as that’s the point you start to see shilkas, gepards, BMP, Rooikat, m113 and all the other wafer thin AFVs, which the XM800 is meant to hunt.
not early 1950s tanks that most of the time arent even stabilised yet
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I mean if youre going to take out the apds, just because it is “german”, then you also have to take out the hvap and the he, as neither are designed in the us…
the APDS belt is explicitly the German designation belt. the HVAP at least is an American adopted belt
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Dump them down with the CR2s L27A1 is a hate crime
Did the us ever used the dm 43 iirc they never put into service either the rh202 or the f2 well before that round was even created
40rds of APDS is not gonna do anything. Players rarely use them. 99%+ of kills you see are with the SAP shell.
shows center axle turning
Shorter wheelbase, only one non-turning axle. Half of the Type 16’s axles do not steer.
Case in point.
Some months ago, in a WT discord, we had a guy complain that he shot a T-54’s UFP with some british cope APDS and it did next to no damage internally. I’ll let you take a guess as to why that was, and it’s not because APDS has somehow poor spalling.
Do you think a 105mm APHE shell would have penned at an 82deg angle if it wasn’t? Do you think it would have penned if that plate was, say, 100mm?
It was never in the topic of discussion. And you can shoot literally anywhere else.
The Abrams were never bad, the Clickbait 1-dead-leave hordes and major nation skill issues gave USA a disproportionately low winrate.
A year ago is not a long time. 35mm SAP, the Gepard, ZA-35 etc have not been changed. Spook has played the ZA-35 just 6 months ago. And from smaller creators, there’s one right on the first results page from 3 months ago.
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Go ahead, play it with HVAP. The HVAP is worse than a .50, just has better firerate. Its THAT bad. It will shatter on virtually anything.
40 rounds of APDS is enough for 3 kills in my experience. However most of your kills are infact from the 35mm APHE.
same br as bradley btw
i disagree on removing the apds
the cannon is a licensed version of M139/HS.820 which fired and can fire 20x139mm apds
dm63 is 20x139mm hence its compatible, yeah i mean they never tested apds but since its basically the same i think it should be fine to fire apds
also hvap is absolutely ass so
lrf and go 8.7
The turret can be trolly at times yes, but the hull is the size of a small nation. It did indeed get better due to the changes, but, as far as I can tell, the change has not made enough of a difference for it to become properly relevant.
What SAP?
So its not the same, good that we agree on that.
Funny too given you posted this just a bit earlier.
Yes, because thats now normalization values work in WT based upon plate thickness, overmatch fully negates the plate existing, it acts like its not there, it cannot yaw or turn when overmatch is in effect.
It was the original argument that was made, yet you choose to shift the goalposts.
Hmm yes, that is totally why the M1 series has had low win rates since the introduction of the 2A5, I was not aware that the Clickbait was added at the same time as the original M1A1 and before the HC.
That is an incredibly subjective statement.
All KDA equipped vehicles use the same API-T there is no SAP in game for the KDA.
Yes and?
And by smaller creators you mean the one guy getting 21k views on his videos, I’m sure that is in any way indicative of the multi-million strong community at large.
Yep, no reason to use it over the M3 CFV now given the CFV is just better in every way but size.