Holy shit man, you aren’t just trolling, you actually think this drivel?
‘hitting weak points with AP is better than hitting… nearly anywhere with APHE’
There is nearly nowhere a T34 OHKs a tiger 2 without an ammo rack. Hull you aim for turret face or mg port, but neither kill more than 3 crew. Meanwhile, the reverse is about as polar as you can get. Anywhere on that mid section of the ufp is ohk. The ammo is spaced all around the T34 turret meaning you don’t have 2-3 crewman as ablative armor for your ammo and nearly any turret hit can ohk.
The tiger 2 was earmarked for going to 7.0 not too long ago. Only the community outcry stopped it, not the stats. You have literally no knowledge of how AP rounds function. You don’t play any nation that mains them.
Cupola has a 2ndary weakpoint just above gun if you miss that will pen the top of the turret. Much like brit tanks, the roof is very weak.
French vehicles have 4-5s reloads beacuse they have AP. They aren’t good because they have AP, they are good because they fire twice as fast as everyone else.
IS2s are both awful, so not really part of the conversation.
T34 has amazing turret armor which can ricochet some shots from many cannons if u angle it (158mm of side turret armor is WILD), the hull is decently well armored and can tank many shots from tanks that aren’t heavy ass metal piles (specially if u’re hull down or at least hide ur LFP), it has amazing mobility thx to a very good engine with high RPM and hp and maybe the only downside of it is it’s long reload of almost 20secs, but if u played with IS-2 u know it’s not that bad if u aren’t stupid.
ah yes, the 160mm turret armor that stops… what. Its semi-cylindrical so you always have a flat section facing you unless its staring at you. In which case the mantlet is the weak point. You can essentially shoot center of mass on the turret no matter your angle and very few guns are penning.
The 46% wr is2s aren’t the best tanks to try to back your argument.
lmao what did u smoke? lowtier french vehicles don’t have 4-5secs reload.
ARL-44 has 13secs reload without as crew, and lowtier french tanks main AP shells. i would even say i enjoyed french lowtier (something that many people don’t think since in their opinion is one of the worst lowtiers ingame, what i don’t think since they have very good tanks with decent AP shells, good armor and mobility).
8 vs 12 is 1.5x. What is 8 times 1.5. It is 12. So yes. 12 is 1.5x the P2W ratio.
You can call whatever you want. I wasn’t arguing just planes. I also mentioned ground vehicles, which a Coax and Hull MG are both useful for. But still, a 50 cal is incredibly useful in that regard.
This point is too inconsistent to consider reliable. Also drastically larger than the whole turret of the Tiger II.
True, but also the T34 is drastically better hulldown then the Tiger II is because the turret of the Tiger II is the weakspot, where for the T34 it is the hull. So tradeoffs at the very least. Also, sure the T34 lacks APHE, but the APCBC is still incredibly potent, especially on vehicles whos ammunition sits in the turret hint hint.
Smoke launchers are wholly useless when you backup at like 8km/h, and also when your track has been 50 cald out from you. Rate of fire is decent but I’d argue nothing significant.
Again, overall Id argue the T34 is better than the Tiger II, with a huge factor being mobility and armament. Obviously the T34 has some drawbacks but not enough to make me think it was worse than the Tiger II.
btw the T34 didn’t even got mass produced since in american words “it was too heavy”, so the americans didn’t send any production petition, which means they didn’t move it to Germany, so in fact it never fought in WW2, it never fought against a Tiger II.
Im well aware. T tanks never saw production, as they were “Tests”. M is production variants, or “Model”. The US eventually switched to XM for “Experimental Model”.
yeah i know, the thing is that i hate the Tiger II faces a tank that irl didn’t even land over german territory and was mainly a prototype.
Gaijin always adds prototypes ignoring their deficiencies or issues cuz this game is 99% fake and 1% historically accurate.