XM163 CS - Supporting Fire Up Close

Cool, a copy and paste vehicle that also removes a feature from the original. We definitely need more of these. Instant no from me.

It’s not a copy paste, instead it’s a vehicle that can fill a massive gap. Why the hell would you be against adding another variant of a tank? Should the Su-27SM, F-15C and all the other variants of tanks just not exist?

It’s NOT a copy paste in the slgihtest, it’s unique in the fact it would be at a lower BR with its radar removed. And the APDS would also be amazing.

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Theres literally no reason not to add it

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Exactly! And you could have it available at Tier 4 too, albeit only suitable for a higher tier line-up unless it get a 6.7 BR so it can go along with the heavies at the same tier.

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Is that an M113 with a Zastava M55? That’d be hella cool!

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Those are 20 mm HS.820 or M139 in US service

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I see. Looks quite similar though.

This thing is adorable and cute in Wargame: Red Dragon as a spammable SPAA for VSHORAD purposes, Gaijin pls.

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Hispano Suiza Type 665 Triple 20mm Gun Mount, on M113A1



Would be a good vehicle for another suggestion…

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Indeed it would! May have to consider doing that…

Definitely and it would actually aid in closing The Great USA SPAA Gap™. It was such an obvious one that’s been known about for quite a while. I’m surprised no one got to it.

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Fiscal year 1974 authorization for military procurement… p.4858

1960s HS-820/665 Forward Area Air Defense System 8x10 Original News Photo | eBay
1960s HS-820/665 Forward Area Air Defense System 8x10 Original News Photo

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Technical Abstract Bulletin, Volume 65, Part 1 p.216

I think it’s an essential vehicle for US TechTree. I hope someone will gather more information and suggest it.

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Wow, I wasn’t aware how official this vehicle was in US Army Air Defense procurement, I assumed it was nothing more than a field mod.

It’s nice to see this vehicle finally gaining some recognition, it’s been floating around on US SPAA lists for a while now, but everybody sort of forgets about it for the M114A2, despite the M113 having a 200% increase in firepower and being far more suitable as an AA than yet another vehicle with a singular 20mm.

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This would suit to be a nice 6.7-7.0 U.S. SPAAG gap filler without the radar of the regular M163.
The M163A2 PIVADS with the Mk.149 APDS belt and improved radar and FCS would also be really nice at 7.7-8.0 where the M163 used to be.

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The reason the Kugelblitz got bumped up in BR was because of its anti tank capability

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A very poor excuse when you consider how awful HVAP is, especially post-nerf , and it doesn’t get a full belt.

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lol the fact that noobs are still complaining about the Kugel being too low is hilarious

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Would honestly prefer the M113 with triple 20mm over M163 without radar. Or:




GLAADS (Gun Low Altitude Air Defense System)


Excalibur/Vulcan Wheeled Carrier

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They’d be at separate BRs so one would not exclude any of the others.

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its nothing like the xm800t its also not like the zsu-57-2 which has an aphe round

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