WZ141 - Variants, technical data and discussion

couldnt find a topic about this little rat so i decided to make one

As far as i know, there are two variants of this vehicle: the first and the second prototype:

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The first prototype - notice the way the recoilless rifles are mounted

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The second prototype - looks more akin to a Type 60 SPG

The first version had a flat turret with one 105mm recoilless rifle either side of the turret with the second version having two different turrets. One had a sloped turret with slab sides, with the 105mm recoilless rifles in tandem and the ATGM rails on the gun barrels, in a cradle in the right side of the turret. The other had an enclosed turret that was wedge shaped all around, similar to the British Scorpion tracked reconnaissance vehicle, the HJ -73 ATGM rails on either side of the turret, with a gun cradle towards the centre of the turret. The missile rails appear to be mounted co-axially with the gun cradle.

The first prototype featured a TZ2120A (or is it WZ2120A?) rotary gasoline engine built by the Tianjin Motor Factory, capable of producing 176 hp / 132 kW. (need more info!)
The second prototype had a different engine - Deutz F6L413F, providing 189 hp / 141 kW.
Both prototypes use the same guns and ATGM’s - the Type 75 recoilless rifle and HJ73 MCLOS ATGM.
According to sinorecords, the first prototype had a Type 77 12.7 mm HMG mounted on top of the turret, while the second prototype featured a different machinegun - Type 56.
Apparently, the second prototype also had modern hydro-pneumatic suspension system implemented allowing the tank to raise and lower its suspension from 170 mm / 6.70 in to 400 mm / 15.75 in. The benefit of this suspension system was that it was able to adjust its height to suit the terrain type, as well as being able to increase or decrease its gun elevation and depression angles, allowing the tank to fire over a ridge without exposing its hull.

Looking for more info! I cant navigate the Chinese side of the web, so i am asking anyone who can for assistance! Specifically, the engine of the first prototype is a mystery - i only found mentions of it, with no concrete information (no datasheets, nothing).
The armor values are also murky, ive found no useful info on that.

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The engine of the No.1 vehicle of the 141 is indeed the air-cooled TZ2120A model, and although the No.1 vehicle features a hydro-pneumatic suspension system, it is non-adjustable. In contrast, the No.2 vehicle was upgraded with an adjustable hydro-pneumatic suspension system.
Additionally, the actual designation of the Type 141 should not carry the “WZ” prefix, as the project was not overseen by the Fifth Ministry of Machine Building. Instead, it was managed by a certain Armored Forces Technology Research Institute. Hence, the first vehicle is officially designated simply as “141.”

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do you have a source i can read? not doubting you, just want to see for myself
(specifically the suspension part)

I’m sorry, but this information doesn’t come from a website. .These details are pieced together from fragmented information—some sourced from officially published magazines, and others based on descriptions from people who have seen internal reference books.

thats fine, i just wanted to get some concrete sources for the eventual bug report (100% sure gaijin will screw up with modelling this vehicle)
edit: nevermind! it has a hydropneumatic suspension ingame!


default position

full tilt forward

actually makes a lot of difference!