I haven’t seen this news before! Dude this is amazing news!
Exactly. Seeing interwar/early ww2 tanks fight on cargo port/modern holland is just gaudy.
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Agreed, one of the reasons i paid like full price in games like bf1 was purely because of the ww1 vehicles, i just love how they look! And i know they’re absolutely not accurate at all in bf1.
I just love the tanks, the armored cars, the planes, airships, everything! Everything in the ww1 era is so unique, it’s a waste not to have it all in war thunder.
I would love to see gaijin seriously expand more into the world war 1 - interwar period, and not sporadically add 1 occasional ww1/interwar vehicle here and there, like… do a serious expansion into it! Do a full update even!
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True. Im fine though with cold war tank in a ww1 map if it fits them I am not a purist but I like the gritty action filled maps. I understand that in maneuver warfare you get engagements where basically everyone dropped everything and ran so the map is clean but there is character in that WW1 map that I liked. Wish they added it to the map roster for low tier Gaijin put work into it sad they lost it.
Overall though the WW1 tanks do hold them selves very well against low tier tanks so a rank 0 or reserve tier is not that bad. Would teach new players on how to build a line up which is needed.
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Yes that’s true, although not all nations participated in world war 1 using vehicles, a lot of nations did acquire ww1 vehicles after the war, and a lot of nations developed their own vehicles in between 1918 and 1929, i known those are more interwar tanks, but most of them would perfectly fit in a world war 1 game mode without being too strong or “overpowered”.
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The B1 from 1935 is a Char B1, it has 40mm of armor all around, exept for the hull hoof, turret hoof and hull floor, the turret has 56mm of armor in the front and 45mm on all other sides, the armament consists of 2 guns, the turret gun and the hull gun that has very limited traverse angles.
The gun on the turret is a french 47mm, the same gun as the AMC.34 YR, this gun can go through a max of 27mm of armor, the gun on the hull is a 75mm gun and it can penetrate up to 58mm of armor, but it has very limited traverse angles.
A lot of tanks from 1935 can deal with the armor of the Char B1, and their armor could withstand a hit from the 47mm gun, meaning the Char B1 would need its 75mm gun to effectively deal with the target.
You’re saying it wouldn’t be fair for other nations like the british but i have to disagree. Let’s see, the Char B1 is from 1935 let’s see what tanks Britain had at that time and before that time.
A1E1 Independent
In 1925 the British had the Independent, 28mm of armor, armed with a 47mm QF 3 pounder gun, enough armor to stop the turret gun, and the 3 pounder can penetrate up to 49mm of armor so (In War Thunder format) the Independent would be capable of dealing with the Char B1.
Vickers Medium Mark I and II
In the 1920’s the british also had the Vickers Medium tanks Mark I and II these tanks are also armed with the same 47mm 3 pounder gun, armor was 8.25mm although some parts might be thicker due to overlaps, so also capable to damage the Char B1, and smaller than the Independent, so it’s easier to ambush enemies.
Medium Mark III A6E2
In 1930 the British also had the A6E2 Medium tank Mark III, the A6E2 is also smaller than the Independent, has up to 14mm of armor, it’s also armed with the 3 pounder (47mm gun), and has very good mobility, so it would also be able to deal with the Char B1.
These are just some examples of British tanks from 1935 and backwards that would be able to deal with the Char B1 either by having armor that would force the B1 to use the 75mm gun or by having a gun capable of defeating the armor of the B1, even if it’s done by flanking or hitting it from the sides. And the British also had other tanks with better armor and other guns that i haven’t mentioned here, just do some research and you’ll see that a lot of tanks from the time if introduced to war thunder would be abble to defeat the armor of the Char B1.
Hey i think the M1921 and M1922 medium tanks could be added to the British tree as well since they were a cooperation between the British and the Americans, just like the International (Mark 8) heavy tank, the M1921 and M1922 were both based on the British:
Vickers Medium Mark D
They would be a very welcome addition to the game, i love these tanks. (Sorry for replying so much i just really like this topic, and i have a ton of books on World War 1 and forgotten tanks)
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You also got stuff like the Gun carrier Mk.1. which though slow could function in game at 1.0 - 2.0 maybe even a bit higher because of over pressure plus the issue of the many light and open top vehicles.
There are also many Renault FT Self-Propelled Guns
http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/Renault_SPGs.html
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I am interested mainly in France for the WW1 and interwar tanks for there SPGs stuff like the Canon de 194 GPF. The Canon de 194 GPF can also be given to Italy and Germany as they did use them in WW2 after taking them out of storage after France fell. It can fire from 0° but I bet Gaijin could argue a -1%. France also had some 1 offs built by heavy industrial firms that wanted to sell improved versions to the army but they failed thoughout the 1920s (will find them)
anyway: http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/St_Chamond_SPGs.html
Oh yes i understand, I’m very interested in Britain, the british are full of very interesting world war 1 and interwar tanks and other vehicles, i can’t wait to have, although i know that France also has very interesting tanks, and Germany too.
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Frances WW1 interwar HE sluggers
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Yeah i agree, even the ww1 tanks still deadly when it comes to rounds with big HE fillers, like the British Gun Carrier Mk. I that you mentioned, that thing is very interesting, and for me it’s a plus, because the crew is less exposed than in the french artillery vehicles.
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I just noticed that no one made a suggestion for the Gun carrier Mark 1, i’m gonna make one, i have a ton of books on these tanks
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Good luck, I’m sure it will go off like a bang. Remember to argue the whole over pressure thing can make it competitive even without a WW1 game mode
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Hey i’ve made 3 suggestions for unique british tanks from the ww1 era, the Mark VIII Heavy tank - International, the Medium Mark C ‘Hornet’ and the Gun Carrier Mark 1, now i’m just waiting for them to be reviewed.
You should make a few for your french suggestions as well, it helps the topic a lot. (i didn’t suggest tanks like the Mark I to IV, because we already have the Mark V in the British tree, and the Mark I to IV are pretty much just the same vehicle)
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I will put that to the suggestion list I have. Still waiting for some event stuff to be approved and some I’m writing. Feel free to jump on the French stuff.
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War thunder really lacks ww1 vehicles. I gaijin will pay attention to this post.
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Honestly, i have high hopes of World War I being properly introduced into War Thunder this year, there’s so, but so many amazing machines to be added to the game!
I really hope we get to see the proper introduction of World War 1 this year, i can’t wait to have more machines from that era! The ground vehicles are my favorites.
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While the regular tech trees already have questionable parts, and this would make it even more messy…
But they are a mess anyway, so might as well add these to the game.
EDIT:
To elaborate on this a bit more, I think it needs more reserve vehicles on different time periods - so that players can start at WW1, WW2 or cold war.
A bit like how we see split in blue water and coastal trees.
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I think this would be great over all, it would be good for gaijin to add ww1 and interwar basically to add more things to do in the game
i particularly have 0 interest in war thunder top tier, it’s just not the experience i’m looking for in a tank game, i enjoy the lower tiers a lot more for the challenge and the diversity, even the worst tanks ever still can be useful, and there’s nothing more satisfying than making a challenging machine work.
And i know that there’s a lot more people who think (kinda) like this, adding more content to the game, specially optional stuff, could be very healthy, refreshing and profitable to war thunder.
Edit: Kinda like helicopters, are they absolutely necessary? No, they’re not. Are they obligatory in order for you to reach top tier ground/air? No, they’re also not.
But are they there for the people who wants them? Yes, yes they are! that’s the same reason why WW1 and interwar should be way more present in the game than they currently are.
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