idk its not that heavy ig its actually on the lighter side of most things it will face
But that doesn’t matter, wing loading and TWR are more relevant.
The su-27 is far heavier than the J-10 but achieves higher sustained turn rates for example
su27 can get kinda slow like that and nobody has actually flown the f16XL in game for some reason maybe you cant idk people own it from the GE skip since on the wiki 40 people already liked it but that has nothing to do with this the f16XL does have a pretttyyy mid TWR like 1.07 some how it still pulls 14Gs easily and like 16Gs if speed is high
F16XL also has a cannon it could be S tier on a gun only game mode when gajin decides its time to add it again it slows down quickly only if a player is trying to pull 100Gs to destory the pilot other than that you can sustain pretty well because of its acceleration
Sustained turn rate means you keep your exact same speed. The Su-27 variants have very good energy retention.
What? You can test drive the current FM
like in a actual game lots people skipped the grind with GE but never went into a battle which means it can still gets shadow nerfed or even BR changed or buffed I was stuck in a hornet dogfight once with a su27 in a f-18c we went in circles for a while very low to ground I was waiting for my team to help but they where already dead and I got bored and pressed the funny button and died while that is a bit of a skill issue its the same with f16XL if you turn too hard then you will lose speed faster than if you just turned enough to circle it also is a delta meaning it has lift but more drag so maybe flat spin recoverable at alt but not low alt dogfighting
Are you drunk sir?
I’m dead serious bro the sustained turn rate may not be as trash as we expect if a player doesn’t hold down W or whatever your pitch is and just turns enough to stay alive but not die to a loss of speed since most people will just have ammrams and aim9s on it it will stay about 1.00 TWR for a dogfight
I mean, it’s hard to make sense of what you are trying to say. And the lack of formatting isn’t helping
what I’m Trina say is basically the f16XL just needs a pilot who wont spam the pull button and doesn’t pull 20Gs the first turn may actually have a chance against a not super aggressive euro or gripen but that’s still mostly skill based but I will stop my coping yap now I just have to wait and see its final since its final flight model maybe changed before it drops fully flyable
So it russian bias when its a russian vehicle but premium bias when its chinese don’t worry you still only have some of the best props in the game at their br’s some of the best early jets at their br’s and some of the best mid century jets at their br. I mean you only have all aspect IRCCM missiles on one of the best airframes at 12.0. But yeah Gajin hates you or something because they forced your terrible soviet discount planes to be accurate to real life, and because of one glitch which has already been acknowledge by the devs and is being worked on. And if you don’t want low counter measures on all your plane go make a petition to the chinese government to add more onto the planes.
right well since we can just throw those to the wind with such a resounding argument they only have some of the best fighters across all the BR’s in the game for air RB and even with the PL-12’s being bugged they their top tier fighters still preform well.
No one but you mentioned russian bias.
A couple low tier Ki-44s and a lightning. Very good indeed.
Me when nations have a couple of good options in their TT (almost all nations does this)
China does not have 12.0 air.
Me when IRL they didn’t add more countermeasures because they have something called Electronic Countermeasures. Also, J-15T is the only true stupid addition here. They could’ve just added the J-16 (coming literally next update) instead which, mind you, had no such countermeasure issues.
Many tech trees have good options across the BRs.
Here are an example of decent-good options in US tree alone:
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tbh the engines don’t overheat that quick, it should last through a dogfight so you can go 110%. dogfights usually dont last that long in air rb, i’m 109% whenever i’m just chilling and 110% when i do need it.
i don’t know where you pulled russian bias from, but both the mkk and mk2 are premium bias.
so does france? and probably bunch of other nations that i didn’t play.
it would have been fair if the russians were forced to be accurate to real life too. give me the documents where it says the su30sm2 has the irbis radar and 12 r77-1’s irl. it doesn’t carry 12 r77-1’s. it doesn’t have the irbis radar (early sm2’s), it has n011m bars-r. give me the documents where the su27sm has 8 r77’s. it doesn’t, it has 6 irl. i can go on and on forever. there were photos of the j16 with the double rack pylons, its for rockets not missiles, but its still a much better source than the russians, because they do not exist. but no, that got refused, but 30sm2 has completely imaginary pylons. mig 35 in the dev server competes with the eurofighter. THE TYPHOON. its completely overperforming. typhoon beats it in both one circle and two circle irl.
it’s called selective realism, which is bias.
how about the F16AJ? the plane that quite literally doesn’t exist whatsoever? i get it if japan didn’t have any top tier at its time and needed a temporary plane, but that didn’t get removed. its still in the game, its completely fake. forget not being in service, that thing wasn’t produced at all, not a single one was made. atleast planes like mirage 4000, f16xl were made. that thing was literally on paper.
As a fulcrum fan I very much want the MiG to be good on release
This kind of performance is hilarious as hell
But a little too much yeah
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they can’t get it right. at first, it was so much underperforming after the f16’s losing way too much energy, as a fellow fulcrum fan i also hated it underperforming, but mig35 doing too much bru
also check out what i got new with the pl12 completely fresh. pulls away from it rear aspect like a 9b, doesn’t see 20g’s even once i think.
Broo what is that PL-12 doing
You know it does really help my point when after you said china had no good aircraft you all proceeded to then caress each other while gloating about how good certain aircraft within the tree actually are. But anyways the J7HA has a better dogfighting frame then the French, bias still exist even if it sis premium and once again they still get all of the good vehicles from a lot of nations, and we take into account ground they have a pretty damn favorable existence, I mean they are what one of the few if not the only country to get a full rework of their tank making it actually better than it was before at top tier.
Also Yeah the f-16AJ shouldn’t have existed japan had domestic options that could and still can be added to the game in order to cover up for this aircraft however gajin for whatever reason decided that japan didn’t deserve to have anything good for its domestic jets or even its import jets and made a terrible decision. Not to mention they butchered the F2A Release. First Fighter Jet in the world to use an AESA radar, in game comes after AESA has been in for a while and it didnt even work until recently.
But china contrary to you peoples thoughts as I said absolutely has access to good vehicles and gets favorable treatment it is not nearly dead in the water as other minors are, which is my point.
With the exception of the Qing-6, not really. And almost every other overperforming vehicle in the Chinese TT is not unique to them if they even get the same broken aspects at all.