Missile performance? Bar the AIM-120Cs, it has the same missile performance as the F-15C at 13.7… Also no, the AIM-120Cs aren’t even the better missile, there is no point in taking them over the AIM-120A/Bs.
Pretty much everything you have said is outlining why it shouldn’t be 14.3 at all…
I will say after going on the dev server, the AESA is really nice, but its not gamechanging, it just updates targets faster and sees more targets on scope, if they dont add BOL pods and extra missiles it shouldnt be at 14.3
For Curiosity’s sake does the F-15EX use the scorpion HMD or similar? also would it carry the same bomb loadout as the F-15E?
… This is the core issue with all the F-15 variants
Now that USA has a radar that actually scans at a reasonable rate it will be able to hold multiple locks without dropping them 99% of the time in BVR
then the vehicle is DOA, why bother adding it or even naming it after a proposed F-15 but then not giving it anything that would make it that F-15?
the additional missile pylons were mounted to this aircraft in real life with images, FAR more than can be said for the fantasy missile loads of the Su-27SM and Su-30SM
yea I agree. It’s literally just F15C with no real upgrade. It’s not like the F15C has a trash radar to begin with so this radar upgrade won’t be game changing at all. AIM120C-5 right now is also a straight downgrade from AIM120A/B unless they buff it. So 0.7 BR increase is DOA
even with BOL pod it shouldn’t be at 14.3
As of the current dev server loadout for the F15C Golden eagle, it should be foldered right under the normal F15C and stay at the same BR lol
You can’t with one airframe in the F-15C GE:
The AIM-120C-5 is decent at range, AIM-9M are still good albeit lacking in effective range. The whole point of it was to give USA something with an ESA radar… which is what they said they’d do.
pretty much
AIM-120C-5 is much better at range than at <=20 km. Of course for the very few of us who don’t partake in BVR shenanigans you won’t notice the difference (or in technical terms, you’ll find that the B outperforms it) and currently you won’t notice anything other than purely kinetic performance for now.
No. No F-15s use Scorpion HMD. It’s a C, dedicated air superiority fighter. It has bomb loads, but not to the degree of the Strike Eagle
A vehicle that doesn’t skyrocket to the top (or at least top 3) doesn’t make it DOA 😂 As I mentioned above from the very onset it was meant as a bridge into ESA territory for USA. Anything else (BOL, maybe additional missiles, etc.) would be a bonus.
A possible 1000 CM F-15C shouldn’t be 14.3? But the ESA-less Finnish Hornet with the same deal (bar flight performance in a straight line) is (or at least was considered to supposed to be)?
120c5 needs speed to be useful
Speed will improve your survivability in BVR. BVR aircraft with 14.3 have high airframe performance, while Golden Eagle has only 13.7.
Golden Eagle will be better in 14.0
No… what it needs is altitude. Once you’re up to Mach 1.3+ which the F-15C is capable of the difference in time to target (everyone shoots at <= 40 km anyway) is basically the same across all modern ARH missiles. The only missiles you genuinely need speed for are the R-77 and MICA because of their drag profiles.
The Hornet:
Su-30SM:
F-15E with ‘high airframe performance’ at 14.0:
Altitude allows missiles to fly farther, speed allows missiles to fly faster, and obviously faster is more important than farther.
The su30 can enter the 39th line faster, and the r771 has obviously strengthened this point, while the f15e’s radar is terrible
Amber Pylons: refused
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/w2MMzjNGpmkv
MRML pylons with primary source: refused
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/y3RoJmkAM9It
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/TUQOAO0iCTyu
Meanwhile Yak-141 with paper feature and Su-27SM/Su-30SM getting double rack they can’t use in real life is fine. Great stuff as always.
Ackshually altitude does both. Or do you think the AIM-120s or any missile (even R-27ER!) fired near deck are also hitting and holding (while brief) Mach 4+ there?
Accelerate at 6km/h, not Mach 1.2 to 8km/h
Ignore /h Thank
A completely useless aircraft, even worse than the dreadful Hornets. And this aircraft will be inferior in speed to all modern European and Russian aircraft.
Interchanging f15e and f15c ge would be a good choice
Agreed. The F-15C is originally a 13.7 BR vehicle, while the new “Golden Eagle” version was placed at 14.3 BR. If it doesn’t receive an increase in missile count, and only gets an AESA radar and the AIM-120C5, then it only suits a 14.0 BR. The performance of the AIM-120C5 in the game is not outstanding; its close-range performance is worse than the AIM-120A/B, and the C5’s maneuverability is not great. Compared to other 14.3 BR aircraft like the Rafale and the Typhoon, the F-15C is significantly inferior in both maneuverability and engine performance .