What makes you think this? MICA VL is 50G still at 7km away. Is it still burning by that point?
Yeah the initial G capabilities of the missile is more so that the missile can aligne with the target. If a target is close to you on your 3 then having a 60G+ missile with TVC is going to be needed to impact the target.
Those G pull are only usefull in close range dogfigth.
You already saw in WT how the R-73 can sometimes pull insane maneuvers in dogfigth, well the 5th gen IR MISSILE are going to be even better at that
Depends if we keep the diamond missile indicator .
But indeed i feel like those missile will be at a clear advantage compare to the IRIS-T /9X. Even if those are better at dogfigth, the probability that you engage at less than 3/4km is very slim. Especialy if you still have a mid range IR missile, why go close if you shoot your missile with a pk>90% at 5km.
Would be interesting if they add the “missile interception” capacity of the IRIS-T
Just given normal kinematics the MICA should have around 50gs of pull out to 12km and 30g at 25km
Tbh this figure is still a big question for me. The 50G is anonced for when the TVC is still on.
But indeed at 7km the MICA VL should not have its motor burning anymore and should be gliding to it’s target so it’s pretty strange. The fact that the 30G values “up to 12km” is in accordance to the fact that the MICA while smaller than the Super 530D, it still has the same aerodynamical formula. So since the Super 530D is 30G a 30g (tvc less MICA) is logical.
An air launched MICA should be even better energy wise.
It’s true that i made my comment thinking the TVCless MICA would be 30G compared to the initial 50G of the ASRAAM (even if at 12km it would probably be more something like 30-45G depending of the parameters of the shot)
The Magic 1 and 2 have the same aerodynamical formulas while the Magic 2 improves upon the maneuverability by implementing dual plane. The same could be said for MICA. In order for the missile to hit a target that is 7km away, it would have to travel vertically first, which would be around 10km or more altogether. At that point, it is unrealistic to expect that the missile is capable of traveling 10km or so in 6.5 seconds.
@Faster_Boiiiii Since the dev thread was closed, gonna answer here. Although tbh I’m not sure on the effectiveness of spatial flares on 9M. They do slow down insanely fast, as they are basically like chaff but burning, so if the 9Ms IRCCM activates, they would have the same or even less effectiveness as basic MTV flares.
But I have no damn clue how exactly the seeker suspension is triggered and if it would happen with spatial flares
The AIM-9M uses three deafferent criteria to detect flares:
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Yep, seen that report before.
Wait the 9M use a dual band seeker?
Never saw anything about it, do you have more info on that?
My personal opinion
The best rocket will be
aim-9x block-2
smokeless, has better acceleration, captures targets that are ahead of the curve, and can instantly change the trajectory.
The only downside is the 128x128 pixel matrix, due to which it can go to a false target.
Then ASRAAM, A-Darter.
everything is the same but worse.
Then iris-t, mica-ir, aam-5, pl-10
because they are smoky and have worse acceleration and maneuverability, but have better range than 9x
Then pyton-5
It doesn’t stand out, but it’s smokeless and the engine runs longer. but may well go to second place.
Then R-74m
there is little data, it is smoky, its production and presence in the military are unknown.
if we take range into account this is a completely different tier list for sure which i think will play a pretty big role in how good they are
It wouldn’t be easier then to take a medium-range missile with an active seeker.
well with these modern seekers i think they would be much harder to defeat than an arh seeker would and some of these missiles have ins and datalink so they would probs play a lot like an arh missile
sorry what?
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Maneuverability refers to the ability of a vehicle, aircraft, or ship to change direction or position with ease and precision. It is a measure of how well a vehicle can perform different types of maneuvers, such as turning, accelerating, decelerating, and climbing or descending. It is an important factor in the design and performance of vehicles, and can affect their safety and effectiveness in different types of operations.
you list the IRIS-T as having worse acceleration and maneuverability
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YES, and was a video where 9x unfolds 90 degrees almost in place
no idea what thats supposed to mean
but you’re wrong.
i make a whole ass post about the iris-t, explaining it in detail and this is the result…
what a lost cause.
why do i even bother
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