AIM-120D’s aren’t coming?
So what missile will we be getting that is on par?
Barely
It’s not IBRIS is better and ECRS is on par with Raven
It’s not. Not only is BOL nerfed to hell it doesn’t even have the most CMs Rafale, Gripen E and F15C GE.all have better CM suites
Not to the typhoon.
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I have heard this multiple times but how are BOL nerfed?
TLDR version.
BOL chaff is 1/4 the effectiveness of standard chaff even though it should actually be a little better.
BOL “flares” aren’t flares and should be stronger than regulars flares, maybe even nearing on-par with large calibre flares, just with a shorter burn time. They are currently about 1/2 the strength of regular flares
They were artificialy nerfed based upon misinformation more than 2 years ago and reports by a Senior tech mod to fix it have been ignored.
For a full breakdown, flame has an excellent post here
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Ah I see. Thanks for the info!! Hopefully gaijin fixes them in next 10 year
Yeah…
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I was about to link the post about it but morvran beat me to it
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The Eurofighter AESA is one of the most comfortable planes to fly right now at top tier. Especially in ASB.
Even just in ARB, it has the best flight model in the game, only closely followed by the Rafales. The Su-30SM2 is fast, but it does not have the high speed energy retention present on the Eurocanards.
The Eurofighter AESA also has an amazing radar with crazy gimbal limits. The only plane that comes close is the Su-30SM2, but that plane’s search zone presets are worse. It trades an extra 20° of gimbal for worse awareness. Personally, I prefer the Eurofighter’s radar much more (and I’ve only played the German one, which has worse gimbal limits).
And then the Eurofighter AESA also has spherical RWR and MAWS coverage. Again improving situational awareness. And again this is only matched by the Rafales. The Su-30SM2 has terrible RWR coverage and zero MAWS to speak of.
And then for ASB, the Eurofighter AESA has the absolute, bar none, best HMD in the game. It has IFF DL and shows radar contacts, both of which AGAIN increase situational awareness.
ALL of these coalesce into a true contender for the best plane in the game. The Rafale is only a contender because MICAs make it braindead easy to play, and the Su-30SM2 has a gimmick with its radar (which albeit is effective).
The point is, the Eurofighter AESA absolutely does not need the AIM-120D at the moment. And weaker airframes like the F-15C GE, F/A-18E/F, and potentially either the F-15EX or F-16C PoBIT getting AIM-120Ds is not going to somehow upset the sheer power the Eurofighter AESA holds. They don’t have the flight performance nor the onboard system capabilities to compete, so they get compensated with slightly better missiles that will only help in a few cases.
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Gripen E as well
Its not sphereical, it has massive blind spots.
I still dont understand why this is justifcation for the Typhoon to remain artficially nerfed?
If they arent going to give us an R-77-1, MICA EM, Aim-120D or PL-12A level missile, the absolute bare minimum they can do is actually buff B/C5 AMRAAMs up to their IRL performance based upon the half dozen accepted bug reports, several of which date back to when Fox-3 were first added.
They can fix BOL to give us our full strength CM suite, rather than the massively nerfed version we have currently.
They can finish the FM and fix the instability issues we have at high alt
They can buff the radar up to IRL performance, rather than leaving it with its currently nerfed scan rate.
etc etc
Im fed up of this attitude of “well the typhoon is best so artifically nerf it, but buff the Rafale, Su-30SM2, F-15, etc etc because clearly they are suffering”
and since when was this ever an issue before?
When we had Tornado F3s vs F-16 and Mig-29s and they were struggling like hell what did htey do? They added IRCCM to only he F-16 and Mig-29s.
So this one sided attitude towards minor nations is driving me nuts.
Especially when the Rafale and Su-30SM2 are actually performing better than the Typhoon with the exception of the FGR4 AESA because its most often paired with the Rafale not against. Looking solely at K/D The German AESA Typhoon is actually the worst performing 14.7 of January 2026, even behind the Gripen E at 14.3 and barely ahead of the F-15C GE. So its not even entirely true either that the Typhoon is dominating. I just think its people not liking the Typhoon IRL and therefore hate that its not bottom of the barrel in-game
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Ah yes that’s true, although its FM is not nearly as good, and it has 1 less missile.
Because everything is artificially nerfed. If this weren’t the case we would have full-fledged team-wide datalink, modern IIR missiles, fly-by-wire, etc. But Gaijin has made (inconsistent) choices on what to implement and what not to – whether for balance or for lack of caring.
In the case of the AIM-120D, it’s for balancing.
I agree they should buff all of the AIM-120s to have proper fin AOA and pull.
But the answer as to why they aren’t buffing the Eurofighter is that it simply does not need a buff. It’s already extremely strong.
I 100% agree. All of these things should be done.
These have to do with attributes of the plane itself. These are different from giving it missiles for the sake of balancing.
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Morvran, Meteor vs those missiles is this
Then give it Aim-120C8s then
Though is that going to be same excuse given when we have F-22s firing Aim-120D3s?
Meteor is too strong so just use Aim-120C5s instead?
Personally, if they buffed the AIM-120 pulling performance that would be enough, R-77-1 is already on par with the 120 in range
I dont have much hopes on the new AIM-120
AIM-120C-8s don’t really do very much over the C-5.
The best we could hope for is they have better fin AOA? But good luck finding info on that.
Gaijin already didn’t change anything on the AIM-120C-7, and that should have quite a few upgrades over the 120C-5.
It doesnt need much, just something to help bridge gap a little. Especially given everything else of late. Even if its stil weaker than the others, C5 is not a good missile and needs upgrading, has done ever since the MICA EM buffs and the intro of R-77-1
Dont you love losing a perfectly fine encounter just because your opponent could counter-attack from insane angle thanks to HOBS missile you dont have?
I CERTAINLY DO.
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