Why
why should it be 2 full br lower than all helicopters with fnf missiles?
Spikes are really bad and there is nothing going for this platform and no dircm
No anti air defence
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Still miles better than hellfires or non fnf missiles… spikes at 11.0 are utterly busted.
Nope
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Seems like youre just ignorant
Just as a reminder there are other helicopters with the same spike at 12.7 without irccm, so why should it be 2 br under them?
Surely it should be the same br as this, completely stupid take
Bro it’s 8 to 16 fnf spikes are bad at tracking do no damage and miss most of the time and it fighting and smsv compared to a 2s6 it’s not fair the uht is just better at 12.7
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You have no idea about what youre talking. They are still better than hellfires no matter how much do you cope about, also have you ever used the spikes after their buff?
I play spikes and watch most war thunder streams
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Are you aware that ground spikes and helicopters spikes are very different? Because you dont have a single helicopter with spikes
Both
Your right no helicopters sorry but still from what I’ve seen from live stream there bad
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Israeli MH-60 at 12.7 has:
- 8x ATAS missiles against air, like the ones on Tiger UHT
- Option to choose between 16x Hellfires or 16x Spikes
- IRCM
- Fire extinguishers
- GATR
- Hydras
If Mi-28NM at just 0.3 BR higher than this has
- 8x LMURs with 17km range, 0.8M speed and 12kg explosive mass
- 12x Vikhrs which have the same range as Spikes, but travel in a straight line, 3.3 times faster and with 2 times more explosive mass.
- 16x Iglas
- Broken IRCM which basically ignores any non SACLOS AA
- Autotracking 30mm turret
- Fire extinguishers
- And so on
H145M has no business being at 12.7. What does it have? A bunch of small ATGMs which have 7km range, travel forever and can’t damage anything apart from IFVs and AA; 24 HEAT rockets with lower explosive mass than 9.7 Mi-24Ps S-8; and a couple of gun pods.
AT LEAST it should be 12.3. Maybe 12.0
AH-1Z at 12.0 has 16 8km Hellfires, but at least it also gets Aim-9Ms and autotracking 20mm turret.
Just as a reminder, he was arguing that the h145m should be 11.0 or 10.7, not that it shouldn’t be 12.0 or 12.3, i am fine for it to be 12.3 as the new british one or even 12.0 depending on how it performs but like i said there is no reason for it to be “2 br under than the mh60” that is 2.0 br lower not 0.7 lower
Even if it has 30 hellfires the spikes are still a better missile, there is no point to compare hellfires with any fnf missile.