Also Israel is mostly unique vehicles.
Israel has less copy-paste than China, and China’s fairly unique as well.
THE AV-8S is a harrier jump jet, a British vehicle. Harriers are already present in several tech trees, including the AV-8B Plus, the AV-8C, the AV-8B (NA), Harrier GR.1, Harrier GR.3, Sea Harrier FRS.1 (e), Sea Harrier FRS.1, Sea Harrier FA 2, Harrier GR.7. It was in fact used in Thai service. Not really unique to Spain. Like I said, the ASCOD and VEC-M1 might be nice.
to be fair its not even voiced in castellano mate ive got it and live in spain xD its voice lines are completely wrong and it was removed so if hes new to the game he wont see it.
you yourself contradicting your own point.
I never said all vehicles should be in the same TT.
Gaijin said UK will get CW vehicles. They never said UK will get ALL CW vehicles.
Indian vehicles in UK are only justified by the cultural ties of both nations.
Hispanic heritage is more than five centuries old, my friend.
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Ingame we also have the M47 105mm in the ITT but that it’s actually a spanish M47E2 not the real M47 105.
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The commonwealth isnt militarily based at all.
Some nations may form alliance’s but the purpose of the commonwealth is not militaristic at all.
Which has upset both the indian player’s i know and the canadians and australians.
The indian vehicle’s by all rights should be in the russian tree, they have less connections with britain military and culturally wise than canada.for example.where the king is still their figure head.
Britain in game is horrifically balanced missing half of its own tank designs and now has russian ones.
And
Gaijin specifically said years ago they wouldnt get commonwealth vehicles then rammed SA in there (which at least some of them were british designs.
Most not though)
Also you have brazil tied in that map you shared with iberico hispanic, when its related to portugal not españa.
Id like to see our game fixed and balance brought to it before gaijin decide to reduce more nations to nothing but copy and paste ( south america, or latin America) has many nation’s that alone could encompass its own tree with many vehicles that are indigenous to the continent.
Spain itself could of went into italy and allowed a polish tree with hungry to exist, but instead they added the brizalian amx to italy and spanish vrcc while Argentinian TAM is in the german tree.
Etc etc.
I want to see the real equipment natioms have developed in game in a tree they belong, at this point all we get is copy and paste.
You want only original vehicles, okay, but that is far from my initial claim.
If they have put so many copy paste vehicles, they have no excuse for not adding some Spanish ones, and even less excuse for removing a Spanish one and add it with another flag.
When did they do that ? The VRCC still is spanish they didnt replace it with a spanish vehicle.
Again not what i said, i said copy and paste is bad for the game and gaijin getting away with adding entire subtrees which are copy and paste is a massive problem when nations have their own vehilces too, there inevitably will be copy and paste, but completely ignoring the indigenous vehicles is just stupid. Even the spanish leopard 2a6E is not just a leopard 2a6 its modified to meet spanish doctrine ans requirements.
Or do you just want spanish equipmemt in literally the little flag only ?
For example spain used leopard 1a2s ( or trialed them) which could be a unique form of leapord for a spanish sub tree.
But non of this will happen.
The VRCC is no longer available, no one can buy it. But you can buy the Oman one
Yes, I would like to have vehicles with that little flag like everyone else, that is the purpose of the game, to give everyone the possibility to have things from their country, otherwise they would not have added so many versions of the same vehicle.
Tell me why Spain should not have a Leopard 2E, which is essentially a version of the Leopard 2A6 adapted to the Spanish terrain and produced in Spain under license, while you have the Polish Leopard 2, the Canadian Leopard 2A6 and several versions of the German Leopard in the German tree and the Finnish Leopard 2A6 in the Swedish tree
So, do the flags matter? all of them or just some?
If they are selling copy paste, then I think Spain could have some vehicles.
But they could also add vehicles developed entirely in Spain like the CASA C-101
I did not say this at all, i literally said the bloody opposite and its leopard 2a6E unless you call it the Leopardo 2E which I specifically stated would be a more unique vehicle to add under the spanish nation as it is differnet to the standard leopard 2a6.
there is no canadian 2a6 the canadian leopard if you read the name, is the Leopard 2a4M CAN which is a highly modified leopard 2A4.
same as the leopard 2PL is a highly modified 2a4 not a 2a5 or 6.
I want all of them to be properly represented, not like the recent benelux tree which is literally copy and paste.
again i stated, “some copy and paste is inevitable” which it is, the Leopard 2E isnt a direct Copy and paste of a 2A6.
theres also protypes link the Lince, which btw if we got the OBJ292 then we can get the lince.
The Spanish VRCC which is a spanish modified Centauro for the spanish light reconnaissance brigades is not the same as the Centauro that sits at 11.7 at all.
same base platform e.g hull, different gun, different HP per ton worse engine, faster reload, faster turret traverse etc ,and ofc used by a completely different nation they did not.
and i quote " they have no excuse for not adding some Spanish ones, and even less excuse for removing a Spanish one and add it with another flag."
this is just total miss information and id suggest if you want to make a coherent argument espcially a suggestion post, then get the facts correct and not just spout of what you feel rather than what is.
i mean mate you dont even have rank 6 yet and you harping on about rank 7 and 8 vehicles ? cmon man. if youre gonna bring it up like that make sure you know what youre talking about
We LOVE saying something isn’t in the game when it very obviously is! It’s amazing!!1!
They sort of exist but not by much.
Ex: I-16 Type-27, BT-5 and SB-2M-100. As camouflages. Even then the options are relatively limited since Spain didn’t make really at all their designs.
technically it isnt, it got removed
Which country?? Current Spanish vehicles are in the Italian tree… And they literally just received an EF-2000. Why add a second one?
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Oh boy, let me guess… The Maus isn’t in-game either? No IS-7?
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vehicle* they only added one xD . truth be told a spanish sub line would of made far more sense than the hungarian one in italy, you would have various M60s, m48s (some of which spain modified, same idea as the italian m47/105) but not as dramtically. you also have the Lince tank which was a prototype but they chose the leopard 2 over, I mean they added stuff like the OBJ292 so could theoretically add that as well.
spanish leopard 2a4s, and leopardo 2E oppose to hungary. which could of went elsewhere.
well look at it this way, you can actively get the maus or IS7 right now, the VRCC is currently completely unaccessable. unless you already bought it, which i did.
the maus comes around once a year, they officially removed the VRCC from the game, and didnt announce it would come back as a GE prem, yet so by all accounts it has been removed from the game as it stands right now. The IS7 is available on the market, it was never removed at all and no one has ever said it was. its just behind an insane pay wall.
I’m Argentine, I understand perfectly. It’s not the point of the discussion. One thing is what the Indians or the Argentines think and another is what Gaijin is doing.
You may not like the idea, but Gaijin already said that the British tree will be completed with CW vehicles (although the CW is not a military alliance, so your point to reject a Hispanic community is not valid)
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Not really. Hungary and Italy had very strong relations before the war. With Hungary buying a lot from them. Spain, neither of them didn’t use Italian vehicles really at all. Besides the L3. If you ask me, they make more sense in Germany cause Spain had stronger relations with them. About 122 Panzer I’s to the Nationalists, massive groups were also trained by the Germans(Up to 57,000 troops) and the Nationalists much of their airforce were German based aircrafts.
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im not rejecting a hispanic community at all mate, im rejecting the idea that were having so many random trees put in random places.
when have they said this? cause as far as i can see they are purposfully not adding vehicles from nations that are members of the commonwealth and adding british stuff to other nations, E.G the ram for so long, the hunter F58 etc etc.
I do not want a commonwealth tree added to the game, nor its tanks added to britain to pad the tree out its ridiculous.
they should add them like the did with teh M1a1 AIM, or leopard 2a4M can to the nations taht made them.