Why the US is getting the skink?

This is not off-topic mods, someone asked the question, and I responded.

The Sargeant York was rejected due to multiple reasons, most of which were technical and jamming failures.

" DIVAD called for the gun to acquire a target and start firing within five seconds (later extended to eight) of it becoming visible or coming into its 3,000 m range, and had to have a 50% chance of hitting a target with a 30-round burst. In addition to all-weather capability, it also needed to have optical aiming capabilities, including a FLIR and laser rangefinder.[6]"


"Despite the bad press and development problems, the Army continued to press for the system’s deployment as they had no other system in the pipeline to replace it. To add to the problems, another generation of Soviet helicopter and missile designs was pushing their envelope out to 6,000 meters (6,600 yds), rendering DIVADs ineffective at long range. In response, the Army announced it would consider adding the Stinger missile to the DIVAD system, leading to even more cries about its ineffectiveness.[6]

As Washington became increasingly fed up with the DIVAD’s problems, Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger ordered a $54 million series of battlefield-condition tests. Congress authorized production money to keep the program alive through a test-fix-test cycle but with a caveat; the funds would be released only if Weinberger certified that the gun “meets or exceeds the performance specifications of its contract.” The tests were monitored by the Pentagon’s new Director, Operational Test and Evaluation Office (DOT&E), mandated by Congress in 1983 to serve as an independent watchdog.[22] The tests were carried out late in 1984.

The results were abysmal. When the gun proved unable to hit drones moving even in a straight line, the tests were relaxed to hovering targets. The radar proved unable to lock even to this target, as the return was too small. The testers then started adding radar reflectors to the drone to address this “problem”, eventually having to add four. Easterbrook, still covering the ongoing debacle, described this as being similar to demonstrating the abilities of a bloodhound by having it find a man standing alone in the middle of an empty parking lot, covered with steaks.[23] The system now tracked the drone, and after firing a lengthy burst of shells the drone was knocked off target. As it flew out of control, the range safety officer had it destroyed by remote control. This was interpreted by the press as an attempt to “fake” the results, describing it as “sophomoric deceits”.[24] From that point on, every test success was written off as faked.[25]"

It failed to do its job effectively due to its limitations and inability to hit the needed targets.

Germany has several SPAA-related vehicles that are prems, same as Russia though unsure if I consider it an spaa causeit’ss slow asf. I wasn’t referring to the US and we do not need SPAA’s as prems at all.

I’m still waiting for Britain to get a Leo 2A4 and T-72M1. If everyone else with a sub tree gets these vehicles then why not South Africa?
Same as Indian MiG-29’s. would be the 9-12A and SMT with a better camo.

Becuse Gaijin need to fill a gap in the US tech tree that has been there years and they are too lazy to think of anything else and add it. So copy paste as ususul and the Skink is rubbish anyway

One cause they don’t own the Leopard 2A4, and while it was a potential replacement back in 2010, it wasn’t chosen.

Besides that South Africa only acquired 2 to test them. One of them has been modified into the T-72FDS back in 06 which is only used for tank shows at this current point. Also because no one has suggested them.

You serious?

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they were very loud and didn’t stop

now they get this Foreign thing, but they’ll keep going when anyone else get sth based on their stuff

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I partially understand why, they are missing more SPAAs at mid ranks. But it still seems like a strange choice to me. There’s a lot of domestic AA they could be getting instead, I don’t think they should also get the Skink unless they tested it at least. The key difference is probably that the Skink has decent armor for an SPAA and the US doesn’t have a lot of armored SPAAs, but I still think they could’ve found something. The T52, T36, and possibly T77 and T100 seem like plausible options for armored SPAAs. However, the T52 would likely be lower in tier, the T36 and T77 still seem to have open hatches, and the T77 and T100 both seem like they would have thin armor anyway still. So I’m not sure they would fill the same niche. Still, the US has a TON of domestic AA that could be added and I don’t think they necessarily needed the Skink.

The hull is a sherman made in canada. It would not exist without the US. Its a slight stretch, but getting something is better than nothing.

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Also, why are people salty? Talking about US mains crying? Its not helpful, and ignores the problem of having insufficient AA. Is having gaps in AA supposed to be fun? Players should be happy with it? Very odd.

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I was not aware of that. However, none of those are the FDS. Nor “South African” Leo 2A4.

Sweden acquired a T-80U for testing, never modified them or operated them past testing and yet they got it as a squadron vehicle, same for the Mi-28 as a premium

A South African Leo 2A4 is very much on the table for Gaijin, hopes should be tempered though as it’s probably the last vehicle on a long list of vehicles the UK could get.

So are we doing vehicle realism in historical or are we not ? Just give the Yanks the Wirbel if not or give British tanks the 50cal

The Leopard certainly is on the table however they never acquired them, it was just there to potentially make South Africa a potential buyer however going off current updates they were not interested. So yes and no for this.

Clearly Italy should get every tank ever built in one comically large subtree because an Italian invented the tank concept first.

It will never not be funny seeing Brit mains begging for the Abrams, They already have American copy-paste’s but suddenly its an issue when they have to share one (bad) tank in return?

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I’m not even a British main, I’m a Swedish main XD

I still think the AIM should have got to Britain because it’s Australian, a country that used to be a part of Britain, they got the F-111 from Australia, why not their abrams?

Not to mention the “Italian tank” that was made from wood would hold up well in game, not to mention it wasn’t built. It’s Leonardo DaVinci’s tank, and would be:

  • useless in game

  • useless irl

  • not classified as a tank

The true inventor of the armored and armed tank was a British man, his name being William Tritton.

Also, I’d like to know what British tanks are copied from the US tech tree.

I’d love an april’s fool event with that thing and hussite war caravan thingies.

The Stuarts and the M109, They already had loads of light tanks already in the game that fill the same role yet got those anyway, The M109 should have been the AS-90 instead(Fires faster so would probably be higher BR but still), Plus the G6 was already in the game and had its BR lowered to nearly the same spot.
Might not sound like much but it gets worse across all the trees, There is an entire third of the TT sprinkled around with the majority of them either already having equivalents or ones that have been suggested instead.
There are threads about giving them the T14(They didn’t build and they rejected it) The M24(They already have loads of low tier lights) The M22(Only one that makes any sense but still have plenty of lights) the M4A2 75 (old forums) so all of those are probably on the way.

The pic wasn’t a real suggestion its a joke about the Italians coming up with the concept first.

Because they already have, in the game at this very moment, Loads of their own MBT’s and the AIM was in fact, Used by the US, While also being an American made tank with an American made upgrade package, It has even less to do with the Brits than even the Skink has to the Americans(They supplied the engine and some other parts at least), Neither should be copied, But its funny how one instance is treated as an equal to the other when they are not even from the same era or class of vehicle.

TL:DR: Copy paste is out of hand and surrounded by hypocrisy.

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Leonardo_da_Vinci_helicopter

Don’t forget this too.
Would be hilarious to see this flying around dropping little hand grenade sized bombs in some goofy event lol.

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So, one joint projects between the US and UK and one that they simply used?

As for the rest, they have no deal with having those.

Congrats on learning how the sale of military equipment works. That aside, by your logic, Sweden shouldn’t have their Strv 121/122 tanks because they are German produced (Rheinmetall/KMW), so you’re presenting a hard double negative.

An export is an export, no matter the seller nor buyer.

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