Same with Kikka and by extension R2Y2. Not many people know that the R2Y2 was intended to be an unarmed bomber (iirc)
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Didn’t read the OP because I know the real reason its a mistake is it makes it even less likely for Germany to get its WW2 wunderwaffe back.
Exactly, from what im also aware at some point the R2Y2 was intended to be a jet powered kamikaze plane also
Because they are fake, and some of them look like Korean War jets ffs. I mean what next, XF-108, F-2 Super Kai, F-23? Japan and Germany’s special treatment needs to stop.
The R2Y2’s should be fully removed from the game, same with AJ, and the fake German AA’s, Panther 2, and Tiger 2 105
u forgot the Kh-38MT, T-80U and T-80B’s thermals, Beglitepanzer’s HE/VT round.
the Maus itself
T-80U and B had thermals tested at some point no? Idk about HEVT but if the round doesn’t exist and is incompatible with the 57mm on it then it should be removed. Maus also exists IRL
38MT should also be removed
Incorrect, a single T-80U PROTOTYPE had it, standard 80B/80U didnt have
Still much more than the R2Y2 with jet engine or Ho-Ri
And they do mix prototype stuff with main vehicles. Who’s to say the T-80U isn’t a prototype version.
R2Y2 V1 is closest to the one irl,
Ho-Ri did exist with a mockup + sketches
nd they do mix prototype stuff with main vehicles. Who’s to say the T-80U isn’t a prototype version.
if its the prototype version they’ll add the (P) which clearly isnt there
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So if I make an F-55 mockup it’s fair game 🤣
And the P is not necessary, idk where you got that from
Definitely
That’s for Japanese vehicles, doesn’t apply to Russian stuff
I mean look at Object series, there is no “P” in those
gaijin could just do it, but clearly its not the case
why? idk probably russia gets special treatment or some shit idk
Why though, I mean the need to distinguish only really arises with those Japanese vehicles you listed
if its a prototype vehicle, it should state it so its not misleading
Good point. Iirc they have mixed tested only features with production vehicles before, so it’s kind of a known thing. Only makes sense to distinguish if there is a second production version in-game too, which I think is the case for all the Japanese vehicles you listed
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u have the F-14A (Early) to state its the early variant
so it’s more of a pick and choose with gaijin
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You keep crying about “fake” vehicles like it’s the end of the world, but conveniently ignore that the U.S. has plenty of real and powerful options across all BRs. Meanwhile, nations like Japan are struggling to keep up — they don’t have the luxury of deep tech trees stacked with multiroles, bombers, and top-tier AAs. So yeah, they should be allowed to receive prototypes or even paper vehicles if it means staying viable.
And let’s not pretend War Thunder is some bastion of realism — I’m out here dodging AAMs in a WWII jet. Balance and gameplay variety matter more than some selective obsession with “historical accuracy.” If anything, War Thunder is the perfect testing ground for these vehicles — that’s the whole point of adding experimental content.
Also, do us all a favor and actually play something other than the U.S. Try grinding through the Japanese tree, or any other non-US nation, and then come back and talk about what they need. Because right now, it’s pretty clear you’ve either never touched another nation, or you’ve spammed one premium for hundreds of matches and think that qualifies as experience. It doesn’t.
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You don’t see me asking for production F-23 or XF-108 (infact I am against these as cool as they are), so idk where this bias thing comes from
And US tree does not get special treatment in vehicles, infact it’s not even an accurate representation of the size and variety of US armed forces and defence industry in its “bloated” state. The US vehicles actually flew, or were tested, or at the very least existed outside of mockups and brochures. Meanwhile Japan, Germany, and to a lesser degree USSR get fake vehicles and missiles.
Also I like my Su-25BM. And eventually I’ll get Su-33 and MiG-25
Give me a break. The idea that the U.S. doesn’t get special treatment is laughable. You’ve got more top-tier jets, SAMs, tanks, helis, and lineups than any other nation by a mile — and still complain when other nations get a single competitive vehicle, prototype or not.
And sure, U.S. vehicles “existed” — on paper, in prototypes, or in testing phases — but that doesn’t suddenly make them more legitimate than other nations’ vehicles added under the same criteria . You’re splitting hairs. If a vehicle was built, tested, or just drawn up, it ends up in-game. That rule has been applied across all nations , not just Japan or Germany. Acting like the U.S. is some pure example of only real hardware is total revisionism.
Also, let’s not ignore that Japan, Germany, and others only got “fake” or prototype vehicles because they had massive gaps to fill — gaps the U.S. has never had. And now, when those same nations are trying to stay relevant at top tier, you’re gatekeeping every addition because it doesn’t align with your one-sided definition of what’s acceptable?
Come back when you’ve played a non-U.S. nation from reserve to top tier. Until then, all this talk about “fairness” and “realism” rings pretty damn hollow.
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