“Every tank have that problem including Uparmored Leopard it not something exclusive for Russia”
Mav MK IV deserve at least it pre nerf LIC turret armor at least i don’t see reason nerfed it to the ground too.
If by “reliable” you mean “seldom actually work because the autoloader catches all the spall” then yes. Compare that to an actual “reliable” kill being that you can shoot any merkava in the hull from nearly any direction and always kill the entire turret crew, and now with the M1 series basket change, you can easily kill the entire turret crew and disable everything present in the turret with a shot to any part of the hull. It is comically easy to do and only required the firing party to just fire into the general mass of either tank and you score a easy kill. Meanwhile for the BVM or 90M you have to hit either the LFP or the side, as the drive ports now more commonly do volumetric BS, or the mantlet only disables the gun due to the autoloader catching spall for the crew.
The Merkavas are easily the worst tanks at top tier bar the Arietes, which also suffer from having non-functional armor but can at least move. The M1s sit right beside the Type 10 in the middle of the pack for viability but are easily far from the top.
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Yes, I mean relliable. Its very easy to kill russian mbts from the front, it just requires to shoot at the right places, this combined with the fact that they are small and cramped it just usually sends them to hangar or hinders them in a way that is just better to J out. The nerf to Abrams´ and Leos is good and deserved because not only they are the most seen and used tanks, they have relliable armor, best mobility and reload speed. Again Im telling you, 4 nations get 12.0 leopards, even sweden when it already has the 122s. It happens to me a lot that I blunder a shot but just my commander/loader is killed when I play the merkava. Tell me, wouldnt it just be easier to shoot the lower plate or turret ring to instantly ammo rack or knock my crew out by forcing the other player to target those weakspots instead of him just shooting the moment he sees a pixel of my tank?
We must be playing completely different games then.
So you just explained the average Merkava, Ariete, or M1 gameplay experience, shoot anywhere within the hull or just any pixel you can see of the hull to kill it. Anything below the turret ring on all of these tanks is a guaranteed 2 crew members at absolute minimum or the entire crew.
Meanwhile Leos have a armored nose pike and are immune there, while the entire UFP of the BVM and 90M are immune to damage. The 90M in particular is even more resilient due to it’s fuel tanks being spall shields and it having actual spall liners, most of the leopards have this boon only on side shots.
Such is not at all comparable.
Just like Uparmored Leopard and even easier on Abram case because just entire hull is green and easy to kill and who can’t aim hull?
The abrams has a lot of empty space next to the drivers place, the UFP can bounce and apfsds from time to time due to its extreme angle. the difference is that the abrams has very good turret cheeks unlike the ariete and merkava. There is not a single problem with the T90M being the most survivable because even if it survives one shot, it most likely cant out reload you or is left severely hindered. Absolutly no one should complain about russian mbts, all we see people talk about is the pantsir and the KH 38. The poing is, give the merkava 700-750mm of relliable turret cheek and UFP armor and thats it, it wouldnt change anything, literally, just make the experience less shitty for those who have proven their lack of intelect by grinding israel…
Uhhh no, the driver has two fuel tanks next to him encased in armor, which, if a round penetrates, generates additional spall. That is anything but empty space.
Unless the tank is on a positive incline and you are firing from the front no, not at all. That and it is extremely common for a round that does get deflected to simply bounce into the turret ring and kill the turret crew.
Like literally ever other tank in the game, except that the T-90M and BVM are far less likely to be successfully penetrated to begin with.
Wow, its almost like thats the same exact situation the M1 series finds itself in because when you have a barn of a hull, even if your turret is strong, people just shoot your hull.
Turns out that both tanks need their hull armor re-examined if they want to be actually relevant, just like how the Ariete WAR kit needs a serious buff.
Buddy it’s called complaining and everyone have a right to complain about anything especially about the Merks that suffer from being “Plastic” and huge inaccuracies, so from what you’re saying people shouldn’t complain and just shut their mouths, good point!
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And whats the issue with the T90M and BVM being more survivable? They are not even that good, they are slower, clonkier and have terrible reverse speed, they are cramped and have the slowest reload among 12.0 MBTs. Again, you dont seem to mind at all that you already have tanks with the survivability of a T90M and mobility and gun handling of the Merkava in the german, italian and swedish tech tree. If russian bias exists, it is certaintly not in the ground… or in air battles…
Have I said that is a issue? No, I have said that the BVM and the T-90M are right behind the leopards in capabilities.
Ditto to the above, please go back and read my earlier comments.
What is ditto english is not my main language
Ditto means ‘As before’ according to the Oxford Dictionary, in this case, it would be similar to saying ‘as said before’. I think.
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It’s a tank that got blasted off by impoverished dudes with makeshift RPG standing 10m about. idk if their claim about “deflecting all KE projectiles in the region” is even true or does that means “our airstrike will take care of the KE projectile launcher first thing first”.
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Tiktok knowledge lol
Show me a single proof of it being destroyed by 1 rpg
I have friends that are merkava operators and they said it takes around 6-8 rpgs to to take a merkava down(not necessarily killing the crew)
video of RPG shooting on merkava - video ends few seconds after the hit - no aftermath
big explosion = merkava destroyed merkava bad
come on man,
only 2 merkavas were destroyed in gaza (destroyed, not damaged)
one by literally 3 ton IED, which the driver ACTUALLY survived that.
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Yeah yeah, can your friend show me the paper where it actually state loud and clear that it tanks Abrams KE so I can believe you.
No but as we said the idf stated it
And considering the facts i belive the idf more then a random israel hater that belive every bs he sees on tiktok
But but but IDF is lied how can we trust Israeli?
Well more trust worthy than Russians far as i can see.
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Hah yea
Also ik germany military ppl said merkava is on the same level of protection as the leo but idk where to find it
Which Leo? there are lot of Leopard variant running around across Europe each have different protection too.