The LMURs shouldn’t trigger the LWS, the problem is that the elevation angle of the APS is around 60º (we’re so nerfed on elevation things, like the SPYDER’s radar haha). Whilst the LMURs do the top-down thingy so you can’t stop it. As a matter of fact, you can very reliably stop Brimstones but not LMURs.
And yeah, whilst Russian MBTs have an unexistent gun depression they’re agile (when it come to going forward) and their armor is also a bit RNG (but more on the good side). The “problem” with Russian tanks and their weak spot is that half the playerbase plays them so it’s basically normal to know where they are. That and starting at one point, all russian tanks have the same weak spot for like 3 ranks or something so… compared to the merkavas, where the weak spot (for the one-shot-kill) isn’t the same as many other tanks and the playerbase is a fraction of any other country… then it might be regarded as too good. Although a shot to the LFP half-cooks it.
It’s because of that that I’ve had someone shoot at me 5 rounds without decrewing me.
I think the Merkava doesn’t need a major buff just a little bit more armor on the cheeks so it’ll be able to use down hull positions effectively
Not saying it matters but as far as your stats go, I don’t know how your last game activity is 20515 days ago, which is impossible.
Your name doesn’t show up on the regular stat pages, so there’s no way to verify you did any of the things you stated besides word of mouth so this is either this is a shell from your real account but whatever.
Lastly, the Merkava is more of a Support tank similar to Japan and Italy but doesn’t mean it can’t be deadly in the right hands. Japan is a glass top tier cannon, excellent mobility and best reload rate hands down but no armor however, it has the best win rate in game therefore experienced players make the difference regardless of tanks like T-Series and Leos which are just more forgiving on mistakes but in my opinion are very underwhelming when you become better at war thunder.
This tread is a massive COPE thread where stats and data don’t matter they just want buff cause bad. I’ve seen peoples stats on this thread and it makes sense and it’s okay I already said I’m not going to reply to those people. Merkavas are fine where it’s at, it has LWS, proxy round, good pen at BR 9 up to top tier since I showed them it can pen leos at top tier no problem but they don’t care. Merkavas have all the bell and whistles but lack in some departments and all nations have their pros and cons. Overall, Merkava is an excellent tank for people who play to its strengths for me personally it’s an extremely BORING tank since I love mobility, speed and power therefore Japan and USA top tier are my go to everytime. I have friends who love Russia and Germany only play to their strengths and do well. Apart from all that, the stats and data speaks for itself even if you only see 3-4 at top tier honestly, it’s just a boring tree I got so bored I just stopped completely and that’s not a gajin problem that’s just not my style of playing the game. Most online videos are either Abrams, T80s or Leos but even though Merkavas are fun their not cool and the playstyle if very… whack in my opinion.
the same thing for example with kh38 IR, there is literally no evidence they are even exist, and they’re still on the game. Overpowered for months and gaijin dgaf, so why no buff the merkavas armor.
there are a lot of grounds on internet and from current war the armor is much stronger than in game. They can do smth about it and noone can say its not cannonically cuz its classified
My in game nickname is ILoveBombs5269
I think he got banned xd
Yeah probably
Solution remove KH. Now no hypocrisy.
You keep tying responses with zero facts, Israel has had some pretty big tank battles in the past, assuming that they didn’t incorporate any KE protection in their tanks is absurd. There are also several sources saying that it is SLERA, but gaijin will not properly implement this into the game so they give it the protection equivalent to cardboard.
yeah, and the worst part, gaijin knows that and still does nothing even after 3 years, that the armor should be SLERA/NxRA, here is the proof:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/1eYOWMuJWJ3n
@Smin1080p_WT sorry for tagging you mate, but could we know how this report is going ???, its been 3 years since it was accepted (literally), could in the next mayor update ser some change about this???
It’s over we have a turret basket now with no armor buff in sight
I’m uncertain you are aware of this, “Ascorbate”, but Composite armor was literally made to stop Chemical munitions. KE is built in, but its design is to stop CE by default. That’s why Composite blocks always have higher CE modifiers than KE per millimeter.
Now, please stop “whining” when we have proven to Gaijin that the armor is underperforming. I do not care to hear about your political ramblings. This game’s balance at its top brackets hasn’t been this bad in many years. Making the Merkava have proper armor is the only reasonable step to correcting the balance within this game. The same goes for the Type 10, Ariete, Leclerc, Abrams, Leopard, Oplot, ZTZ series, and more.
By acting the way you are, you are actively being a negative factor towards positive growth. Please do better.
You don’t usually lie negatively against yourself.
Also, we know from reasonable figures that the Merkava is significantly larger and more protected than any other tank in current service, so how would it be lighter than the SEPv3? That doesn’t make much sense.
Even the Siman 3 is noticeably larger than the M1 Abrams and Leopard. It’s only rational to assume that with the size comes protection and weight.
Is there any actual source to back this up? The Tiger II is larger & heavier than the lighter IS-4M. Being larger doesn’t say what protection you have. If that were true the Tiger II would be more protected (by your logic) than an IS-4M…I doubt spaced armor arrays is going to beat even the basic M1 Chobbham array in protection (comparing the MK.3)…
Gaijin is gonna ask for a hell of a lot of sources, reasoning, background to how you came to this conclusion which is also why I ask.
The Merkava Mk4 series features a turret that has been reinforced through technological advancements.
While I cannot definitively state that it is more robust than the Abrams tank, it is undoubtedly one of the most durable among existing modular armor systems. I do not believe it is advisable to comment on the Merkava’s armor before thoroughly examining the materials currently under discussion.
The fact that bug reports are being accepted is evidence that even a snail recognizes that the Merkava’s current armor is not in good condition.
The Merkava in the photo was MK 3, the one mentioned saying “even MK 3” is what I referenced. The only NERA we know of was fitted to the sides in form of addon armor. Otherwise it’s generally just spaced armor which I don’t think competes with Chobbham so that’s why I asked if you had any material I can read, or look at on the Mark 3 Merkava to back up what you said.
The M1 was right next to it in the photo so I assumed you meant it was better armored than the M1 aswell as you declared it the best Armoured MBT of its time. Unless it wasn’t worded it properly.
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Sorry, I mistakenly thought you were referring to the Merkava Mk4.
As for the Merkava Mk3, Chinese sources suggest that it might be able to withstand a 3BM42 round at the cost of the engine…
Well, that seems a bit dubious, and since I don’t know if the Abrams can actually withstand a 3BM42 round to the front of the hull, I can’t really say for sure.
Sorry again.
Also, I don’t think that was me who said that… probably?
It would certainly be odd as the armor is cast + fuel + back plate + engine + back plate (10-20mm). If the Abrams hull can’t stop 3Bm42 with state of the art Chobbham at the time. I don’t imagine spaced armor + some fuel + an engine light that hasn’t changed much from the MK 1 Merkava to be able to stop it.
It might reduce some spall? But the tumbling and engine parts might rip past the back plate and create more spall if the round tumbles enough and has enough energy I imagine. Overall, with engines they can’t be too heavy, so using materials that soak up projectiles would be an absolute no no for an engine. You have to worried about thermodynamics, P/W ratios, wear down, cooling, etc. So unless the engine is made of Relikt I don’t see how.
Were these Chinese experts or just people like you and me who speculated on stuff based on the given information at the time? Because Mango is NO JOKE of a round at that time period.