Compared to the gepard, the za-35 has a much slower turret, and doesnt get apds
ZA-35 doesn’t get APDS and has a slower turret and less ammo
Business, simple 💁🏻♀️ they will “support” the biggest (and of course more money maker) player base. The fox can pen w+click ( death) tigers and German mains don’t like that. There must be 10 German players/ 1 British 🤔 same with USA mains and Russian ones
1 Like
@Everything_else @Drakunite
I see your posts are pure anti-America xenophobia, and are trying to defame Americans.
Yes, it’s xenophobic to peddle hate against Americans for them being American and having better English than you.
It’s funny how you two have posts that shill for Russia so much all because I’m a critic of their equipment.
I just realized that Everything Else accused/implied Britain of being Russia, and my posts defending the Fox is somehow shilling for Russia.
And to stay on topic since you two tried to derail the topic with nonsense…
@Botharman
APDS doesn’t make these vehicles 8.7 or 8.3.
gepard also has double the turret speed
@Everything_else
R3 T20’s equvialent in the Soviet tech tree is 6.0.
Soviets don’t have an equivalent to the ZA-35, as ZSU-23 is inferior to it in range and search functionality.
Soviets have an inferior Fox at 7.3, inferior cause it’s larger and louder.
So yeah, not sure why you think balance = Russian bias.
I think the question is more… "How come OTHER nations get OP vehicles?
Because Gaijin is very quick to properly balance some nation’s vehicles but not others.
The point of the question is the implied bias by Gaijin to/against select nations, rather than “I want my OP vehicle!”
For another, more blatant example, the Hunter F.1 is a bit of a lacklustre 9.0 jet (mostly because it’s constantly up-tiered against Su-25 with R-60Ms, anyway…) then Gaijin goes and adds the Dutch Hunter to the French tree, it’s an F.6 model with 30% more thrust, better aerodynamics for a 20% improved turn rate, and a couple of Sidewinders to boot… And introduced it AT THE SAME 9.0 BR. In what world are these 2 jets equivalent? But Gaijin hates Britain so that’s why…
1 Like
and then the f6 went up in the next round of br changes
the entirety around that br is quite compressed so I’m not surprised when they add something .3 too low or too high
Are you new here? When they move something up it means a lot of people are doing really well in it.
And yes, sometimes this doesn’t seem to make sense comparing to the vehicles of other nations of performances of similar vehicles but WT is not a math. if A = 2 and B = 2 doesn’t mean A+B is 4
Please note that player habits affect the BR of the vehicle, like event vehicle (usually deteriorating stats) or smaller nations (usually played by more experienced players)
Move Fox back to 7.7 or 7.3.
This thing doesn’t belong at 8.0 with all the stabilized SPAA spam. It’s better than BTR80, but not a full BR better.
At least give it it’s armor and traverse back.
Nah it’s incredibly annoying in gameplay and does fine at its current BR.
2 Likes
i mean the imp chapparal is 9.0 while 9.7 is the ozelot
germans leo 1 is now 8.0 when it was fine at 7.7
Bro you don’t even have the Fox. You never even see them anymore. It is exceptionally rare I see another Fox on my team when playing it. Why? Because they aren’t worth being at 8.0. They were annoying at 7.0 but I never thought they were OP. XM800 is way more annoying than the Fox ever was. Britain is not allowed to ever have anything meta or good.
Leo is borderline undertiered at 8.0. Best MBT at 8.0.
I don’t have to. I understand the game at a high level and understand what vehicles are good and bad.
U rly gonna say this when the OF40 is a strict upgrade in multiple departments? Leopard 1 isn’t undertiered at 8.0 because it’s fully unstabilized which precludes it from being 8.3 as a MBT with no real reason to override this.
While this is mostly true
This is not, regarding them not being overpowered.
1 Like
least armor out of them all only has a better topspeed and mobility but its not really miles faster than competion like lets say a EBR 1951 at 5.3 its in the middle its got no armor aswell can be 50cal in spots only good things about it is its above average speed and amazing optics thats it