the hammer isnt all that, its just a rocket boosted glide bomb, it would get beaten out by a AGM-84H or K or most high-subsonic cruise missiles with IR seekers
the KH-38MT is hard because its just Russian doctrine differences, there isnt really a counterpart for it besides maybe a AGM-88G AARGM-ER or AGM-88J SiAW for general use
Do any of those have ir seekers?
AGM-84H (which got added :) ) does have one, but other 2 have MMW as their only way of engaging a moving target
Yeah I saw the addition of the agm-84h but the only problem is its speed which I think the other two missles are supersonic
I don’t know much about mmw so I will have to read about it but thanks for the info
Primary source states that the BRU-61/A allows the use of all SDB class weapons. This includes things like the Stormbreaker (SDB-2).
thats why its not in the game
The JAGM-MR is already in game on the Apache AH-64E. They just cut the MMW out and made it laser or IR seeker.
F-18-E/F with JAGMs btw
iirc JAGM-F is MMW/SAL, while JAGM-MR is MMW/SAL/NIR, so the only one that could come is a restricted SAL seeker, which isn’t contemporary to Kh-38MT and the Hammers (FnF version) like the original post suggests. I wouldn’t mind that version coming, but it would be more equivalent to the SAL Brimstones than Kh-38 or Hammer, and wouldn’t be FnF which is what US CAS lacks arguably (no SPICE, Mavericks are vulnerable and can’t carry a lot, etc. etc.)
Yeah good point. I was wrong that the IR JAGM-F wing launched version is in game. The laser is though so if it was added it would be a laser only hellfire… yuck. But it could go on the farthest hornet wing pod so maybe not so bad?
I looked it up and the JAGM-F is a strengthened version to resist the forces it has during flight and eject/launch and some software tweaks. While the JAGM-MR isn’t in full scale production or fully approved it was being touted as enhancing precision over the initial JAGM.
Wouldn’t be surprised if we hear about a JAGM-F with tri mode in the next year or two as LM is saying they are “investing” in enhancing the product line for the future. It’s already getting put in vertical launch pods and shooting down drones.
Would be very cool, but for now it’d just be an American equivalent to Brimstones, which aren’t exactly great since most good CAS aircrafts with Brimstones have SPICE 250 too (iirc, specifically Eurofighters and Gripen E)
Either way, more American CAS would be sweet. Ideally MMW so we can also have Hellfire-Ls which can be mounted on aircraft I believe too?
Would also help other NATO aircraft not in the US that are lacking good FnF (eg in the Japanese tree)
In the short term I think the list is pretty small
GBU-53/B stormbreaker SAL/IR (disable MMW) they already have the model ready
JSOW with reduced radar crossection as it is a stealth bomb
AGM-88A/C
If they wanted to be funny they could add the JAGM-F with SAL because it’s a copy paste brimstone.
Fixed Wing Aircraft use the JAGM-F, unless you’re leading me to believe this is the normal JAGM. If so, I’m interested in knowing more.
They are still the best missiles to deal with helicopters, standalone they are mid but they are a great utility.
AGM-142 Have Nap / Popeye out here asking if it’s a joke.
We could have had AGM-142s for the US, Britain (on the Aussie F-111) and Israel long ago, but gaijin, and I think a lot of other people have just forgotten it exists.
And now it’s primary USAF launch platform just got added, the B-52H.
Wow this is crazy it has not been added yet thanks for the suggestion!
It seems like a direct counter part to the 38mt except its amount that you can carry
Similar reasons to the kh38 ,the agm 187 should have some sort of gnss guidance with the laser ,something the brimstone is missing as well considering it’s full capability is nerfed compared to kh38 and kh59…etc , radar hellfires exist too.
Agm 183 for the B52 and Agm 176 .agm 142 would be cool addition along with the other cruise missiles the b52 can carry but they haven’t finished the b52 cockpit but it’s at the same br as the f117 with jdams.
