Why isn’t the JAGM-F in war thunder

2 wrongs dont make a right

Still only 6

18x SAL only Brimstone 1s on a platform that should have 18x MMW Brimstone 2, 3s or Spear-3s.

If the F-15E gets 28x IR Guided GBU–53 then the Typhoon gets 18x MMW Spear-3s.

then F-15E would get MMW GBU-53 since its a multi-mode weapon, fine by me

There is currently not a great indication that the JAGM-F has a stronger engine or something. JAGM uses the AGM-114R engine, and likely JAGM-F also does to increase commonality (as is mentioned to be important in the brochure).

Range seems to be similar to the Brimstone when fired from fixed wing aircraft, and since we know Brimstone’s engines aren’t super amazing, it means that launch speed alone is able to carry them that far. Hence a simple Hellfire engine would be able to do it given a high launch speed (and altitude probably too).

I believe only JAGM-MR has the tri-mode seeker. JAGM and JAGM-F are dual mode SALH +MMW.

In-game AGM-114K is basically almost exactly this already though, so it would just be the same.

They could give the agm-84e supersonic capabilities to be on par with kh-38

The only prob with GBU-53 is it would be easily intercepted by pantsir

yeah but its limited to 2 84e

Even a Pantsir cant shoot down 28 weapons. Just had one shoot down the 6 Brimstones I fired at it. But even they have some limit on the amount of missiles they can carry

for gbu 53 couldnt they just use guns if they are a km or 2 away?

I sitll dont see it happening and if that defence works for GBU-53, then it should also work for Brimstone 1s getting FnF

If anyone knows abt any us equivalents to the kh-38mt please let us know

Closest thing is the AGM-53 Condor

TV/IIR seeker like Walleye or AGM-65D, datalink (irrelevant in WT currently) and up to M2.9 speed + big warhead. However the weapon never really entered service so there is only limited platforms it could be seen on (mainly A-6). Shame, because it is otherwise a very powerful missile.

Otherwise in terms of speed and ability to be actually mounted to modern airframes, the AGM-88 I guess. But it’s an anti radiation missile, so it’s quite different. AGM-88E potentially adds the ability to fire using onboard active guidance, but probably not effective without the anti radiation homing. AGM-88E has an additional active mmw guidance capability, but mmw is fairly limited in acquisition range. So expect not more than 10km tracking range probably, probably less, which makes it inferior to IIR missiles in-game.

For reference, AGM-114L apparenlty only has a LOBL range of up to 5km, 6km for moving targets. Beyond that is only LOAL, which is a no-go for Gaijin atm… Only acceptable form is by using a point lock, which requires LOS or by manual guidance like SALH, as long as you need to have LOS at some point.

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The guns really isn’t reliable enough to destroy munitions.

Both the Stormbreaker and the JAGM-F are or should have a tri-mode seeker. IR, MMW radar and GNSS? Iirc. The F-15E should be able to carry 28 of both the JAGM and the GBU-53.

Reminder that FCR directed LOAL is a thing and the primary mode of engagement by the longbow system.

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Honestly couldn’t they just give the an ir version of the agm-88

common misconception, JAGM-F has base Laser+MMW of the JAGM. JAGM-MR is trimode

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