Why isn’t there an M833? Not only does it have to compete with machines with more powerful ammunition, but I also wonder why it’s not available. The M833 dates back to 1983.
If youre refering to 10.7 M1 Abrams
A) aviable ammo is one of those soft balacning decisions
B) 10.7 Abrams doesnt need it. Better ammo would warrant BR bump.
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Are you kidding, why would that increase its BR? They shoot T-80UDs from here with 11.0, 10.7 turrets, -10.7 2S38 Terminator. And the HSTLW still has 12.0, why?
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If 10.7 Abrams got pen similiar to Leo 2A4 it would outright be the better tank out of the two.
same issue as Abrams - RoF.


How the hell would that raise BR?
because M833 would bring it closer to DM23 fired by Leopard 2A4; but the Abrams would keep 5.3s expert reload whilst Leo would be stuck at 6.5s.
True hypocrisy LEOPARD has a higher survival rate which is bullshit

wow, you impressed me
Im not the one making unfounded claim.
It still needs its ammo buff from 272mm to 372 or 450mm
It does not.
The M1 Abrams is superior in nearly all aspects, providing the M1 with M833 would practically remove one of the few remaining advantages the Leopard 2A4 holds over the M1.
Also, reload rate is more important than penetration.
The Leopard 2A4 has a 20% slower reload for only a 11% increase in penetration. That’s why the M1 already has better firepower than the 2A4, even without M833.
Besides, if you want an M1 with better penetration, why don’t you just play the IPM1?