the scimitar is faster gets better missiles (Aim-9B) and more missiles (4) compared to the swift with 2 fireflashes but… they are both 8.7?
hell the Javelin is 8.3 despite having the same speed but an additional 2 fireflashes (4 total) and 2 more adens (which arent the best but pretty good for 8.3)
like whats the secret with the swift that makes it 8.7? is it just gaijin being a lil special
Player stats XD
Also, this is in the wrong section. Move it to machinery of war so it won’t get closed
sorry mb
Nah, it’s all good mate. Simple mistake :)
fixed it! so is the only reason player stats? and if yes… why do players do better in it then the javelin and scimitar?
Nice!
Idk. I know it does play into balancing, but I doubt it’s the only thing. It’s really the only thing I think players can really do themselves to effect it other than bug reports to change things on it.
A2G? idk. Maybe flight performance is that much better. I couldn’t tell you for sure. Although I’m about to get it
in a2g the scimitar is easily better, it can take 4 AGM12B bullpups or 4x 1000lb
like i seriously do not see how the Swift F7 can be seen as on par with the Scimitar
Hmm… Then I really don’t know other than player stats…
so literally a case of gaijin being gaijin
Lol yeah ig
ive just noticed its an afterburning jet… ig thats gaijin excuse
Maybe it acceleration?
Scimitar also handles like a chimpanzee on heroin is the one operating the rudder pedals while you shout verbal instructions at it in Welsh. Where Swift is actually quite pleasant to fly.
I suspect the BR is where the two have statistically met among foolhardy British pilots that have attempted to dogfight in the Scimitar like they’re still flying a Spitfire, and enemy pilots that have tried to head-on a Fireflash-equipped Swift.
Lmao. That got me cackling like a chimp XD
It’s an adequate description, the rudder just does not work at speeds the Scimitar easily accelerates to
I’m not saying it’s not. Just the way it’s phrased XD
oh okay intresting, out of curiosity what jet do you think is better? (currently grinding them both)
same
The Scimitar has terrible rudder controls at all speeds which has several downsides ontop of it such as compressibility, gun handling and what playstyles you can do with it, the Swift on the other hand only has bad rudder controls at higher speeds in effect the Swift is easier to use
The only thing that the Scimitar has over the Swift is energy retention but that’s not by a huge margin
Yes AIM-9B’s are better than Fireflashes and other related Missiles however that’s not saying much since AIM-9B’s are the second worst AAM behind the R-3S’s and tied with the Firestreaks. Fireflashes are pretty much meme missiles anyways
To be honest IDK how good exactly Scimitar is, since I did not play it, but from videos and what I have seen in battles it seem to be playstylewise kindy simular to F-104: high top speed (for subsonic), good acceleration and climb rate, has 4 AAM and decent firepower with 4xADEN but does not really turn.
As for Swift F.7, it has OK maneuverability, but does best around 500 km/h if I remember correctly, has slightly above average acceleration while using afterburner, can go way faster then listed top speed fairly easily (I often go around 1050 km/h but it gen get to around 1150 befor it starts falling apart). It has only 2xADEN that are kinda awkward to aim as they are both on one side of plane but you get used to it and Fireflash missilles, which are kinda gimicky, they re best for big bombers or head-ons but are not reliable (AIM-9B isnt either but Fireflast requires more skill, mainly knowledge when to launch it to not waste it).
Honestly though Swift may seem way worse then Scimitar by stats alone, its in my opininon good plane, they are just planes with different playstyles with Swift being more responsive to fly and play agresively with its niche Fireflashes and Scimitar just being british lower BR F-104.
(Also, seems like Fireflashes have been nerfed somewhere in like last 3 months or am I just wierd? I feel like they use to fly where I aim instantly but now they fall for sec before they start flying in direction where I am aiming simular to laser guided missiles on ZT3A2)