I believe that is the image from the apache tests so this could just be the thermals used by default on the apache.
this is the sight picture the stormer gets.
either way its a higher contrast than what we have currently
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If you could provide the source for the photo I could include it.
Starstreak wasn’t carried in service.
IIRC there were lingering concerns about debris from the rocket motors used on the in-service ground-launched missiles that meant Starstreak was a capability that the Apache AH.1s retained, but weren’t part of Apache’s normal operational capability. Apache-specific versions of the missiles weren’t purchased, and crews weren’t trained to engage with Starstreak (outside of simulators at least). But it was expected that all necessary changes would happen if it became necessary for Apache to fire Starstreak operationally.
Similar issues also affected Hellfire, which ultimately meant the AAC advised they were only supposed to be fired from the inner pylons under normal circumstances. But obviously, Hellfire was a necessary capability that was already purchased for the helicopters, and needed to be equipped and fired regardless of the minor damage it might cause. I believe it was something that the US themselves wanted to work on mitigating in later Hellfire variants, so things improved over time in that regard without significant UK funding.
When they were upgraded with Arrowhead, the Apache AH.1s wingtips had additional rear-facing AN/AAR-57 sensors installed. So the ability to mount Starstreak there was kind of superseded by something that was considered more operationally important.
So far as the new AH-64Es are concerned, AFAIK only Korean, Taiwanese and Indian ones retain the capability to equip AAMs on the wingtips. The US dropped requirement for Stinger on Apache and fitted countermeasure systems there instead, and the UK ones were to be to the same baseline standard as the US without further consideration for carrying AAMs.
Ours have AN/AAR-57 sensors there again: this time a more permanent installation than the one that was on the AH.1. Same as the US AH-64Es were delivered with.
However, US ones now sometimes carry an IR countermeasure system in pods with additional MAWS sensors
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Thanks for the info.
So if the Apache E ever comes for US/UK it will most likely come with no A2A missile?
Probably will lack A2A unless we can source some evidence of them being used/tested. I’d hope with the 64E we might see better than the 114K but it remains to be seen.
of course my good sir.
High Velocity Missile System - HVM
Apache starstreak missile test
Added bonus - stormer IFF? IFF controls
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yesssssss now this the shit I’m talking about. Ill get that reported right now.
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If they finally give us AGM-114L (and make them not be a horrible, slow pos like Hellfire is currently), that has proven anti-air capability against helicopters, drones etc. There are sub-variants of the 114L with proximity fuze and frag sleeve to make them more suitable against such targets.
Anything to make Stormer better than it is now is much appreciated.
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Man, i realy want this in game. Better resolution camera with ability to see lasers. This would be gamechanging.
Didn’t take as long as I expected to run into this issue again, had 2 examples of it on the second game I had today. Now I have the clips+clog+screenshots, do you want me to write a bug report on this and then link it to you or do you want me to just send them to you here?
Report it and link me, I’m away for a few days but if no one handles it by the time I’m back I’ll get on it.
Hellfires with Proximity fuzes would fill that role somewhat at least in Anti Heli work surely?
I heard AGM-114L-7/8A has a proximity fuze.
I love your username
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Forwarded. Cheers
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Proximity fused hellfires with additional fragmentation jackets would be usable as anti helicopter weapons, yes. We’d need radar changes to make AGM-114L able to track a helicopter locked up though.
Every time I’ve attempted to use SARH missiles on a helo out of ground clutter the missile refused to lock until gun range.
Have heard versions of AGM-114R also have proximity fuses and fragmentation jackets, those could probably be in game now.
But I digress; this is the Stormer HVM thread, not the AGM-114 thread.
Helis have an artificially nerfed heat and radar signal
Can we please, please, PLEASE, have a god damned fix for these missiles ASAP. My Starstreaks are phasing through virtually everything now, when before the update I’d at least be able to hit things with them without phasing through them. Make them proxy missiles with explosives if you have to, I don’t care as long as I can hit an aircraft without phasing through them.
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