Why is the M1A2 SEP V2 considered the worst tank among the top three major countries?

the abrams has a spall liner. why do you keep saying it doent after people already showed you proof that it does? Are you just a habitual liar?

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It does NOT have a Spall Liner, however, its armor IS designed to reduce spall generated. A Kevlar Spall Liner was suggested but not adopted because it was too heavy to add without violating the contract’s weight limits.

I unfortunately cannot send the Optimetrics PDF because Gaijin doesn’t allow PDF uploads for obvious reasons.

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are you stupid? People have linked you directly to the bug report proving the abrams have spall liners. M1,M1A1/HC/SA/AIM, M1A2/SEP/SEPv2 Missing Integrated Spall Liner // Gaijin.net // Issues

If i have to post this stuff to you AGAIN im blocking you. People have posted this over 100 times either you’re blind, or just another part of the " hate the U.S.A Crowd. " and trying to keep the tanks from being fixxed like necrons.

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The Kevlar package was not adopted due to the weight of the vehicle. If it was, you would have seen it by now.

The Devs may have acknowledged it, and I too hope I’m wrong, but the Spall Liner package suggestion was 4 and a half tons. I also have never seen physical proof unlike with the other tanks in-game.

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are you slow? the weight of the vehicle? LOL

lil guy 6.7 is literally the easiest br for usa, germany, france etc its all easy the lower you go the more likely you are to face people who dont know the maps well meaning they arent going to know to look in a camping spot… thats seal clubbing to me and thats basically 6.7 and below

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lets check that again, first ur m1a2 is barely cracking a 1.3k/d i’d even say a 1.2 k/d ur top vehicle is a striker with a 1.5 k/d ur t29 is ur 2ND most used tank and its the only one with a good k/d, now i havent played the abrams in a long time because i’ve been done with that tech tree for a while but if i did decide to revisit it your k/ds arent very hard to bear, ur avg is 1.2 k/d in all ur abrams… stop yapping my guy

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I would even go as far as saying 9.7 is top tier if it’s a full uptier to 10.7, because you play those vehicles the same way as you play 11.7s.

I find it funny that every time someone brings up the abrams reload, people talk about the aced reload. It’s never the normal reload time or a damaged loader reload time. The average person doesn’t have that 5 second reload time lmao. Most have the 6.5, where its hardly an advantage over 7.1

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Are you 14?

You are right that you will be more likely to meet newer players at a lower BR. However, I suspect that there are way more sub level 30s playing high tier premiums, than there are playing 6.7.

6.7 is also a great BR for several nations, and it’s fun if you aren’t uptiered above 7.3.

That’s an issue with any crew stats discussion. Everyone uses aced reload as the default, while in reality the default should be maxed out reload skill. Ace crews are really difficult to get unless you already have a high crew lvl, and play a ton of that one tank.

Yeah, its really ridiculous. Because it relies on something that isnt true, and that’s everyone having an aced crew lol

5.3 seconds is the expert crew, and 5.8 seconds is the non-expert crew.

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A 6.5 sec reload requires no crew investment whatsoever

Full Reload + Full Leadership + Expert, which I would consider way more standard, is 5.3s

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Yes because everyone has a full reload, full leadership, and expert on every crew… on every tank. You think that’s standard? laughable.

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You’re at Rank VIII so yes, the bulk of crew levels is made up of Vitality/Agility/Repair/Awareness levelling, you can easily have several crews with full reload by Rank V if not earlier

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Same could be said about a Leopard 2 or any other tank with 6 second reload.

With full leadership and reloading skill, you still have 5.8 second reload which is still faster than a Leopard 2 with an ace crew.

Are you looking at your own stats? Because your M1A2 and SEP K/Ds are the ones hovering around 1.2 and the M1A1 HC being around 1.6.

Meanwhile my M1A1 HC, M1A2, SEPv1 and SEPv2 all have around 1.6 K/D.

So either you are looking at the wrong stats, you are lying, or your math is not very good.

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IRL they are always fully loaded with ammo plus fuel explosion after two hits.

the abrams turret is not designed to " fly off " i dont know what you all are seeing.

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