Wikipedia never been a source,… as it takes the specification out of 1 aircraft (here the F-15C not A or even the E)
The charts you’ve been shown told you that you have a between Mach 2.3 and 2.5 of speed at parameters.
So others parameters are involved,…
That depends on the flight hours, fatigue and overall design of the load bearing structure under the pretty metal. You can’t predict catastrophic failures until they happen - regular maintenance is designed to detect and prevent them from possibly occurring.
Within margin of error, which is fine. I’d rather it slightly over perform than under for complaint sake.
Are you sure this is 9 * 1.5 = 14 + 3 or is it actually 9g + 3G = 12g.
Remember the 1.5x is a gameplay allowance/assumption by Gaijin. Aircraft are designed to handle more than their rated load as a margin of safety but that margin will change depending on the plane and manufacturer, hence the general assumption of 1.5x.
After reading your source, I am very confident that the flap allows the plane to pull an extra 3g over 9gs, not on top of Gaijin’s allowance. 12.5-13G is accurate then given that the instructor will provide inputs that IRL aircraft don’t normally do.
The JAS 39 Gripen is a 9g aircraft for the light external store configuration. For the most heavy attack external store configuration, the normal load factor limit is set to 6g.
There is a possibility for the pilot to override the soft stop in an emergency situation and pull the control stick back to the hard stop and thus get an extra 3g, when aircraft speed is above 600 km/h. This requires an extra stick force of approximately 135 N.
It should work like that, so it does with other planes in the game, but ever since adding the F16, Gaijin seems to be balancing the FMs not in accordance to the same standards they have been using since 2013. No matter how you twist it, with their own logic that they apply EVEN to planes that are hard limited and CANNOT switch their limiter off (ie- F-16 limiter to 9G pulling 14G in game) they are doing their arbitrary 1.5x multiplier. In the same logic, Gripen could be doing (9+3)*1.5 or 9*1.5+3 G’s, whichever way you want to formulate it, but it doesn’t. The plane itself certainly has the capability according to the logic they apply everywhere else.
They are just balancing using different standards because a Gripen pulling 17G+ would be ridiculously powerful in WT (as it was) and besides, it holds not a single toe in reality.
There should be a point where they get rid of this arbitrary “1.5x” when we are getting into planes that can pull significant AoA and can have >1 TWR and start sticking to their actual flight limitations and real world performance data or the next gen planes will be utter UFOs. Imagine when they add more advanced stuff like the Su-35S which doesn’t have an AoA limiter… you go around Mach 1-ish and pull hard … if it will have its G limiter set to 14G (9*1.5) it will just break into pieces mid air pulling a ridiculous AoA and utterly over stressing the airframe far exceeding 14G. But you’ll see what will happen. It will pull 5 billion G’s at just under mach 1 with a 120 degree AoA and be fine because “tHiS pLAnE sHOulD bE hAvINg cRAzY ManEuvERaBiLItY bRo”, that, or it will have an AoA limiter imposed by Gaijin that it doesn’t have. We shall see.
This whole 1.5x thing should go, it isn’t good for anything. Planes across the entire range of aircraft we have in game are pulling silly amounts of G’s… A6M’s pulling 14G, f.e., even at speeds of 600 kph IAS. That just doesn’t happen.
But whatever man. I’m just ranting anyway.
In Gaijin’s defense, they tried to go there with the F-16, but you saw the outrage of the community… instead of also putting real world limitations on the Mig-29, they instead just killed the limiter on the F-16 and called it a day. Welcome to arcade.
this plane usually overheats right?
literally the AB get buffed in engine thrust :D Why dont you use RB for comparing?
mach 2? dude it doesn’t hit even hit mach 2 before wing ripping max it can go in my experience is mach 1.6-7
what altitude?
like 28000ft, but then again the f-4 cant hit its true top speed either cause it should be able to hit mach 2.23 but it cant
how tf are you at 11 km? when I tried I could go over 30000ft cause it was forcing my nose down
ignore me… i’m stupid… i’m in the F-14 and not F-15 by mistake lol XD
Edit:
most players make the mistake of climbing by pitching up to much. let the speed you gain give the wings more lift to get you up (past like 6-7km). I fly almost horizontal with a tiny bit of altitude gain and if i get near the limit of speed i pitch up till acceleration stops and then slooooowly pitch down to maintain that speed (or gain more speed as the max increases with altitude).
yo what it should’ve wing ripped already, either that or my displayed mach speed has been bugged for several months
oh wait your flying completely clean
no?
mach speed is the speed of sound which get slower at higher altitudes. you can be at 1225km/h at sea level and be mach one but at 10km you only need like ~1080km/h to be at mach 1.
That and the density of the air is also lower so there are less forces acting on the wings meaning they can handle higher speeds. If i dive at that altitude and keep aprox the same speed then the wings rip at like 9km.
yes? its “max speed”. not “max speed with load”. or am i missing something?
I almost never fly without underwing weaponry.
In a match i don’t think anyone ever would. but that is not what max speed is measured with.
That would be like trying for the speed record in a car but having your family with you in it weighing you down XD
okay so now i think im bugged because I cant even fly up that high without it forcing me to nose down…
