Why is swedish t80 at 11.0? to me it seems that 10.7 vehicles are significantly better

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i would even say its equal to 10.3s like bshima. it has all the qualities of a 10.3 with contact 5 era, 3BM42, gen1 thermals. and yet it is 11.0. any explanation?

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if you want such an unhistorical vehicle in a tech tree its gonna suck

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this is just a stupid thing to say. we want balance and “oh its not historical, oooh if my plane had its real missiles…” is not going to help anyone.

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Engine power, acceleration, reverse speed, reload rate and top speed.

T-80U is far superior to a T-90A or T-90S.

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sweden never employed T-80s
Thats what i meant to say

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ok thanks for explaining. i still think it should be 10.7 cuz it has such bad apfsds.

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No it shouldn’t because it’s closest competition is also at 11.0 / 11.3.

Besides, you’re still aiming for the same weakspots whether you’re using 3BM-46 or 3BM-42, in practicality the decreased penetration doesn’t play a role in 99% of situations.

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true. hopefully they will do what they did with planes and make the 11.7s go to 13.7 (probablky they will do far less) then these small balancing changes coud happen because to go up .3 BR and habe 100 mm more pen is still a big difference

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It’s kinda busted at 11.0, I almost exclusively use it at 11.7 and it’s still really good.

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Ironically that soviet vehicles in other tech trees plays better than the soviet tree itself

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I would easily take any soviet T-80 over the swedish one (except the B, it seems painfully underpowered)

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I’ve heard it’s quite the great 11.0 tank. As a T-80 it gets th best reload and reverse spead of any T-series tank, and wonderful protection. The only thing that worse about it compared to the 11.3 T-80s is that it has a worse round, and that’s literally it. Anyone can make a 3BM42 work at that BR Tbf… (except against some Leopard 2s)

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If Sweden players want more Meta I support if USSR gets the same threatment.

The reason why it’s 11.0 is simply not featuring 3BM46 as T-80UK has. Also, T-80UK uses same bad quality Thermal imagers and same ERA 0.3 BR above never seen a soul complain.

Bhishma TWMP is 10.3 because it’s just a T-90A without 3BM60.

Never but the reason that it’s featured was because Sweden tested some units:
https://tanks.mod16.org/2015/04/09/report-from-terrain-trials-with-t-80u/