the f-5e is basically the n1k2j of props: it has little engine power compared to the competence, it’s 200kmh slower than the competence ON THE DECK, it has two mediocre 20mm’s, it has two mediocre missiles and 20 flares. It can only out dogfight people that decide to engage it and enter a rate fight while being a delta wing with low TWR say mirage 3, kfir canard and mig21s. Everything else can out fight it or run away from it.
The J35XS is one of the fastest planes on the deck in the entire game, has insane power, has a huge IRST sensor and out dogfights everything that is below the f16a block 15 in terms of maneuverability. And because it is so fast and has such insane high speed thrust it can pretty much force everyone to engage (and therefore take the L)
But muh f5e has busted damage model!
not anymore bub. I’ve one shot f-5s with gsh23l, meanwhile the drakens (literal flying fuel tanks) simply refuse to die despite being a fuel tank and an engine.
Meanwhile drakens? holy cow. They don’t even give you any fuel explosion when you get them with the 30mm. The draken can also fly fine without a wingtip, the f-5s get absolutely doomed the moment one of their parts is missing (not like before)
But muh f-5e has superior energy retention!
so what? The Draken holds energy nearly as good past mach 1, it barely loses 60kmh doing a complete flat turn on the deck at mach 1.02 while the f-5 drops from mach 1.02 to mach 0.98 and stops pulling 13g’s. Draken not only holds energy decently enough, it also out rates everything that is not an ADF or a J7E, aircraft against which it can deal with at slow speed (as well as against the Mirage 2000)
But muh draken has only 12 flares and f-5e has 40!
so what? you’re so damn fast you can literally outrun any missile on the deck. If the F104A is “so op it can outrun aim9l’s!” why the draken being 300kmh faster than any other 10.7 cannot? the f104a is also 300kmh faster than it’s competence, where logic? the f-5 will rely on it’s flares more than the draken because it has no extending privileges like other aircraft.
6 pops of flares and no RWR also highly offset cannon
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is that the literal reason?
then i concede, if the f104a stays at 9.3 because it only has aim9b’s then the j35xs so should do.
(remember six missiles)
still if f-5c has unreal flares i’d advocate for the draken to have rwr and bol flares. No 9.7-10.3 should see the draken xs at all.
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Because the J35XS has Garbage energy retention, so the average player Eats shit the second they turn. The F-5E as a allround ballanced aircraft. The J35XS is fast sure. But its guns carry minimal ammunition, While the F-5E sure its only 20mils They carry lots of ammunition. The J35XS is hyper manueverable sure. But its far from the best. They F-5e is one of the best aircraft at its tier in the hands of a experienced player. The j35 series require a ludicrous amount of knowlage about it to be a Effective player in it.
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i like to Compare the F-5E series with the J29F in the Swedish TT br wise. The J29F is a awesome aircraft when you know your limits and strengths. They have good energy retention, carry ok missiles, Have decent acceleration, Thrust to weight ration is good, Top speed is very average for its br. But it doesent sink excessevily in one area. You simply have to play your strengths, and go after the enemy that you know you can beat in a 1v1 or even 1v2 in certain cases.
There isnt a aircraft that is Just the best in every single area. Aircraft trade Speed for manueverablity, Armament for agility. Or anything else. Sure there are better Aircraft designs but thats apart from the fact.
garbage energy retention??? it literally retains better than the f5e past mach 1 lol. It can also keep speed fantastically above mach 1.05 while climbing. The f-5e’s guns have insane drop off and much less range than the gsh23l, care adding they deal very little damage, so little that you rely on engine fires or pilot snipes to actually do something. A single 30mm akan is going to blow up your plane, four m39s are going to give you a red fuselage while the engine is fine. I’ve never lost to a single f-5e, not even on f-5c . There is no “ludicrous amount” on staying fast and slinging missiles with an irst that looks like borderline HMD.
Aircraft don’t trade armament speed and agility. The F-15 is a monster that has armament, speed and agility. The F-5E is a plane that has energy retention, the draken has energy retention, armament, maneuverability trade for retention and speed, and so goes the list.
Oh it’s you Mantis 😂 didn’t recognize your new profile picture
Yeah carry on with your cope posts, there’s no getting through to you
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“Waiter, waiter! More cope posts, please!”
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“Cope posts”
okay, keep being the elephant in the room then?
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Player problem, not aircraft one,…
That’s also why the game balance is broken currently, because Gaijin Algorithm is based on in game results and not aircraft performances/weaponnary
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it seems like you’re the one coping flying attackers only 😉👍
hence why f-5s still thrive, because people still haven’t learnt that thing they said about “do not dogfight zeroes, run away from them”. But yeah, it’s a cope post, the f-5e is SOOO op, it should go back to 11.0 to fight j7e daily and face r27er’s with just 20 chaff pops and two aim9j’s against six plus all aspect missiles and doppler radars. A plane that gets toyed by the MiG19S should go 11.0.
Two of some of the best A2A guns in the game = mediocre…apparently.
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the best a2a guns, you mean vulcan and gsh30-1? i’ve never lost to an f-5 most of the times because the times they managed to land shots on me I didn’t get enough damage to actually stop me from winning the dogfight.
“Some of the best”, meaning up there with guns like the vulcan.
Meaning you were up against players who missed almost all of their shots.
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I’m confused, are you coping about the J35 premium of the F-5E?
(It’s cope regardless tho, keep up the streak ))))))
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no, the m39s do literally a whole bunch of nothing. As far as receiving and giving experience of mine goes.
git gud before daring to say “cope” to someone better than you then talk about coping
the f-5c counts about 90 team kills, the f-5e was two weeks at 11.0 til today and has only 14 team kill deaths.
