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The worst part is that someone reminded me that way back in the day, they started to apply the corrections on the Crusader tanks, but them for some reason not only they reverted it all back, but they left it worse than it was before.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ncUwovFT6PnL
There’s also this report I’ve done. Over a year old and not even accepted. The turret ring incorrectly shares the same armour zone as the turret floor, it should also be at least 14mm thick.


I’m just assuming the external section of the turret ring (before the teeth). Which is roughly equal to the top of the hull double stacked. Top of the hull is 7mm, so times two is 14mm. That being said, I don’t know how Gaijin grab their turret ring values so it could be way thicker going off this diagram.
I remanber that from my old account, back when the crusader 2 was 2.3 the driver’s hatch armor was actually more accurate, but not only they reverted the change, but bumped the tank up to 2.7 without fixing it’s armor, if this isn’t bias i don’t know what it is
gaijin dont care about ww2 no more
That’s not true, they’re updating the model of the T-50 light tank, the T-50 out of all things, a vehicle that has absolutely nothing relevant wrong with it’s armor, unlike the Crusader II and variants.
I do think a big part of that is the new one they are adding as a premium(even tho the last 5, I think, Finnish vehicles were also premium and it should have been tech-tree), this update.
But like i said in the post, part of the vehicle’s affected by these armor issues are premium. Which make even less sense, why it hasn’t been fixed, a premium product that you need to pay for should not have a lot of considerable issues with it.
- The Crusader Mk. II “The saint” from Great Britain’s starter pack
- And the Crusader AA Mk. II (Overlord) from the Echoes of Overlord pack!
Here’s your answer.
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At least there’s one in the french tree too
Yes, that’s why i’m making it so explicit that part of the tanks affected are premium tanks
yeah but the bug is old hasnt effected there sales no one notices no one cares
until they can steal our boat.
Yeah, myself and others had Crusader reports that got actioned on the old forum. Then I’m guessing someone counter-reported with bad sources and made them worse. It’s basically what happened with the Cromwell for years. We got the turret armour fixed. People counter-reported and got it nerfed, then we got it fixed again.
i’m making people notice, my brother already gave up on buying the British starter pack, because i warned him about it, you better just play the tt Crusader for free.


https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/yoGfSO4P1iMk
This is Nathan’s repost of my original report, there’s about a dozen British vehicles still missing the rear smoke dischargers (3 of these are Crusaders). Over 8 years old.


Screenshots from my Crusader Mk II armour reports, also over 8 years now. The ones BigGun have linked are reposts.

Uh oh.
@Morvran it’s also in the French tree. They can also get a Mk III someday.
Here’s a breakdown for all the Crusader reports:
Crusader Mk II:
- Crusader Variants Wrong Front Hull Armour: Repost of my original report. 8+ years old.
- Crusader Missing Internal Walls: Segment taken from my original armour report 8+ years ago.
- Crusader Mk. II Internal Mantlet Not Completely Modelled: 3 years old.
- Crusader Mk II External Mantlet Wrong Thickness: Segment taken from my original armour report 8+ years ago, though in fairness I will say 2 years old as physical measurements were done around that 2 year timeframe - thus the edit.
- mantlet armor on Crusader Mk. II tanks is mismodeled: Not mine. Only just made. Armour zone doesn’t match 3D model.
- Crusader series incorrect top speed: Not mine. +6 months.
- Crusader series Incorrect Horsepower: Honourable mention, because it’s closed. This needs more attention because it’s the reason Gaijin made the internal bug report ps conversion change ensuring all Imperial Measurement vehicles are worse off.
Crusader Mk III:
- Crusader MK III currently missing its smoke dischargers: Repost of my original report. 8+ years old.
- Crusader Mk III Turret Ring Appears Too Thin/Armour Zone Rework: Segment taken from my original armour report 8+ years ago.
- Crusader Variants Wrong Front Hull Armour: Repost of my original report. 8+ years old.
- Crusader Missing Internal Walls: Segment taken from my original armour report 8+ years ago.
- Crusader series incorrect top speed: Not mine. +6 months.
- Crusader series Incorrect Horsepower: Honourable mention, because it’s closed. This needs more attention because it’s the reason Gaijin made the internal bug report ps conversion change ensuring all Imperial Measurement vehicles are worse off.
Crusader AA Mk I:
- Crusader AA MK I currently missing smoke dischargers: Repost of my original report. 8+ years old.
- Crusader Variants Wrong Front Hull Armour: Repost of my original report. 8+ years old.
- Crusader Missing Internal Walls: Segment taken from my original armour report 8+ years ago.
- Crusader series incorrect top speed: Not mine. +6 months.
- Crusader series Incorrect Horsepower: Honourable mention, because it’s closed. This needs more attention because it’s the reason Gaijin made the internal bug report ps conversion change ensuring all Imperial Measurement vehicles are worse off.
Crusader AA Mk II:
- Crusader AA MK II currently missing its ESS smoke dischargers: Repost of my original report. 8+ years old.
- Crusader Variants Wrong Front Hull Armour: Repost of my original report. 8+ years old.
- Crusader Missing Internal Walls: Segment taken from my original armour report 8+ years ago.
- Crusader AA Mk. II, AEC AA | Reload rate: Not mine, over 1 year.
- Crusader AA Mk. II, AEC AA | Gunner position: Not mine, over 1 year.
- Crusader AA Mk. II, AEC AA | Weapon drives: Not mine, over 1 year.
- Crusader AA Mk. II, AEC AA | Elevation angles: Not mine, over 1 year.
- Crusader AA Mk. II | Ammunition layout: Not mine, over 1 year.
- Crusader series incorrect top speed: Not mine. +6 months.
- Crusader series Incorrect Horsepower: Honourable mention, because it’s closed. This needs more attention because it’s the reason Gaijin made the internal bug report ps conversion change ensuring all Imperial Measurement vehicles are worse off.
Putting everything into perspective like this, really shows how much they have been neglecting the Crusader and it’s variants.
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