Why Gaijin so reluctant to let players use guided bomb in naval 8.7, for their new "PR.23" or what?

In the lasted BR change, Gaijin increase all modern guided weapon plane’s BR to 9.3 in Naval mode, it is so unreasonable to do like this. We all know BOT’s AEGIS fire control can using normal HE direct hit jet plane or using machine cannon like AK230 to shut down plane easily, so using jet-plane with guided bomb can be a new way to bomb enemy player’s BB and avoid annoying BOTs.
And we all know, Gaijin add the most powerful BB PR.23 to its own country, it can easily kill all country’s top tier battleships, whether it’s Iowa or Vanguard.etc, at the same time, underwater shell can easily hit any historical BB’s mag. Then in next update there is no country can stop PR.23 by naval artillery battle. So using guided bomb is the best way to give some player who sunk by soviet BB to revenge.
At the same time, due to match mechanism, same squadron can’t against with each other in one match. Some squadron like _HMS _ they using this mechanism to keep more their players in one team, only play P2W BB and don’t push, only retreat further and keep their shocking K/D. So in next update when they in 4 or more PR.23 in one team, for normal players to revenge, the best way is attack on air and using guided bomb.
So Gaijin change the guided bomb plane’s BR what’s the real reason? At least, they should recall the BR change and let other country’s players a chance to revenge.(We all know now American BB and Italian BB are weakest BB)

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By the way, this video will show PR.23’s unbelievable survival ability, after so much attack it even not lose a real hull.

And that is the final result image about Pr.23’s hull damage.

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It was imaginable to Gaijin simply move all the planes capable to counter these new ships to a higher battle rating where they couldn’t face guided bombs, as the Fritz X isn’t a guided bomb in a easily accessible plane for the German branch. Talking specifically about the Pr. 23, two to three torpedoes is surely enough to take it down if you have the guts to get near enough for a good shot. Regarding its survivability, you tested with bot planes, do you know specifically what weapons the airplanes shot on it?

dont forget the AA bots are getting heavily nerfed with the update as well

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I dont think any of those guided weapons will do a whole lot anyways not enough yield.

Ju288 will probably remain the best naval CAS even after the update, i get a kill on a ship sometimes 2 nearly every time I spawn it. You need a fast bomber or attack plane with 1800 kg+ or 3/4k lb bomb to gaurentee a 1 shot.

CAS is just as lame in naval as it is in ground I dont think you want revenge bombing there.

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Not me do the test, but in video, seems like they us AM-1 and AD-1 to bomb and drop torpedo to PR.23. So I think the weapon is tiny Tim and Mk.13/44 torpedo. But the problem is, even using American stick, why other country’s ship can get damage on hull(it turns black) and PR.23’s hull healthy just got yellow?
And talk about the distance, the player like _HMS _ they never push up, they only back to 14/15km or even further, how can u push such a close distance and don’t lose u ship. Any top tier BB are all glass cannon when battle in very close range. So can u image when u facing 4or5 _HMS _ squadron’s PR.23 and in 16km shooting your turret’s waterline? They always using this matching mechanism to avoid enemy’s 4 players team.

When your target have an Pr.68 or Helena bot near it., they will fire to u even u are 10km away to them, speed is not the only thing u need, height is also important. But German in next update they still have DDR’s IL-28. And now in BR.7.0 most of players they don’t push, just stand in the respawn point with bots, I don’t think JU288 can survive easily when facing the whole player’s fleet. There’s another reason need to consider, where is the place u bomb? If u bomb just drop on the middle of the deck, probably only cause little damage on boiler room or no damage.

So, have anyone compared the bots with themselves in this update? And I talking is realistic battle, but in AB there is more harder to breakthrough AA bots.

In realistic, autocannons were more spreaded, but big caliber cannons with HE-VT or HE-TF got its range and accuracy buffed. So actually it is harder to bomber to get near.

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Agree, I m RB player, but someone says gaijin will nerf AA bot in next updates.
So, drop bomb in high latitude is the only way to bomb BB in top tiers now, and they even banned using modern guided weapon. That’s no reason to do like this, why don’t they just cancel all plane in Naval RB!
By the way, in next update’s promotional film, seems like they want to add bomber formation.

The guided missile from ki 48 already have no counters other than CAP (which is another topic because CAp fighters have to get very close to shoot down the bomber, very vulnerable to AI gunners)

A ship with AI gunners basically has 2-4km effective range. (of course if the target is a B17 bomber flying in a straight line and you have VT shells you can swat them from 8km)

Most battleships in fact have worse AA than early destroyers. For examples the 4.7 Akizuki was designed as a AA destroyer.

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But I mainly talk 8.7’s F117 and A-4E, they r facing ww2 top tier battleships, all equip HE-VT or HE time fuse, and more AA machine cannon. All them will make keep flying straight and using traditional guided bomb very impossible.
So, that’s why I think it is time to using 8.7 guided bomb in naval and will make game more balance.

The F117 differs in others that there’s laser designation guidance instead of WASD guidance.

Also because dogfights are dead in naval mode, the F117 will be the crazy good

Just one problem, the f117 wont be allowed in naval come the update

But gaijin make American BB like a powder barrel, I think u know Tennessee and Colorado have painful survival ability. In forum, everyone wants Gaijin change it, but years and years, gaijin do nothing on it. So, maybe let F117 can be using in naval top tier is another way to balance American BB’s poor survival ability.

Dude, that is why I m here to asking Gaijin keep their original BR and let us using it in naval :)

How about no

Okay, that’s your opinion.

I mean Japan, Germany and UK all can get more ships as they laid down the hulls so at least they can help contest the Soyuz.

Not sure if France, Italy or USA can get any other classes unless the rules are changed on what passes.

As funny as having laser guided bombs against mostly ww2 battleships would be, it would be insufferable on the receiving end.

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Actually Roma class basically is a smaller Soyuz, but gaijin made it so difficult to play and having unacceptable reloading time.
At the same time, gaijin already add FP494, Douglas and PR.56K in game, using AA missile or anti ship missile. Oh, German and French also have missile boat.