Why Gaijin is wrong about the Stinger (it should be 20g in game)

I’m at least going to assume that it was in good faith, just a lack of specific info at least in this case(for now).

The POST seeker report is up

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/LbD7XSmoaAJc

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Hope this goes somewhere given the stinger is still abysmal, but given the past situations with the stingers I am not holding my breath.

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I hope so, too. Because the armament on the Type 93 failed spectacularly the other day when I was using it. Many launches on easy targets and the missiles either pissed off in a straight direction or just outright forgot how to lead properly.

Absolutely piss-poor state of affairs.

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The more people that know about both reports the more likely that something will get done, if it can be spread to as many Content Creators, Discord servers, reddit the better. Since more eyes will be on Gaijin’s response.

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Make sure to put it on the MANPAD thread too:

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Legendary move

According to missile dev because Igla can’t pull 20G so Stinger can’t too simple as that (no BS they said it themselves)

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That’s what is being debunked in the report

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Should be because it’s ton of report about it right now plus the guy i was talking about was the same guy who said this
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F-20A performs better than the F-5E in all but takeoff speed.

However, this is about @tripod2008 's new findings.

It’s not entirely my own work, since patents technically aren’t considered an authoritative source for the purpose of reporting bugs. So if I had been forced to rely solely on them as evidence it probably wouldn’t have been able to be passed.

Its the combination of having the necessary primary sources to back up the claims, the patents just explain how it may be accomplished. and that the MANPADS article directly mentions that they were uncertain about specific things that the Patents should help dispel, and further had a number of unsupported claims relating to similarities between systems that may have existed, that at least now very likely don’t in the face of the contents of said patents(there are more; but they aren’t directly useful, since either they are superseded by primary sources or detail the working of subsystems that aren’t going to be modeled ).

I personally think the Mistral should also be covered by the report but didn’t have the right documents to hand; Proof of the utilization of control surface dithering, or the use of a Closed Loop (or Feedback Loop) autopilot would probably be sufficient.

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Seeing how they corrected over half a dozen aircraft last major, it appears they’re making movements.
They also separated flares and chaff above expectations.
So I expect a new result for Stingers.

We will see if after few years F-20 gets nerfed like MiG-23 did.

9/20/24 still nothing but they did acknowledge the reports from tripod2008
Implementing accurate limits for FIM-92 maneuverability
And
(Photo)Contrast range extension for POST seeker FIM-92 var.

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Note as well, we have not heard anything about the datalink the FIM-92K should have, since, well, thats the entire gimmick of the K.

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Though that datalink shouldn’t actually work with things like the LAVAD or Stormer AD surely as those systems predate the existance of the K by over a decade

The LAV-AD is still in US circulation, there is no reason why it, along with the avenger system, should not be able to use the datalink in their current configuration, after all, the LAAD system already had a datalink to a ground based radar unit for direction all the way back to the FIM-92B.

I would wager the stormer AD should have a similar implementation given it came to be around the time of the LAV-AD as well.

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In museums maybe, but in museums there’s not much call for upgrading your vehicles.

Dunno why any of the mentioned vehicles would be in museums, as the LAV-AD is still in US Marine Corps circulation as stated, we’ve yet to see them get officially retired as well as the LAV system as a whole who are slated to stay in service to 2030 and possibly longer, the Avenger is in series production still, and the Stormer AD was a testbed that never really went anywhere.

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