Turns out a tank that favors mobilty and handling is gonna struggle frontally against one of the most well defended tanks it can face in a full uptier!
M774 won’t change that. It’ll just uptier it to a face even stronger vehicles, where its advantages aren’t special anymore
Unsurprising
Not like it needs to really
Could stay at 9.3 then as rounds are that bad+ no smoke.
MBT70 has great HEATs+ rocket and even its AP seems like it actually does OK post pen damage compared with XM1. XM803 also better than XM1 and thats staying at 9.0
Made up rules
Ammo is a balancing decision in game
Yeah and that’s not fair to the XM1 considering all pros and cons of both tanks
It could get M774 right now and it wouldn’t need to go up in BR
And just be blatantly better than every other light tank and fast medium.
Type 16P, for example is moving up, and the only thing it has over XM1 right now is higher gen thermals and DM23. XM1 with M774 would be .3 lower with a better round, better acceleration, better reverse, gun handling, gun angles, and armor, both CE and KE.
M48 Super is at 9.3 and would also be worse in every aspect except DM33 vs M774, which is a marginal difference.
Stingray is currently at 9.3 and would also be worse in every aspect except DM33 vs M774
Leopard 1A5 is the same story
Looking just at the numbers, MBT70’s AP should have negligible differences with M735, as it’s weight is only 0.1 kg heavier and it has slightly less pen. It also has worse mobility and no thermals and a slower reload
And it is absurd that it isn’t moving up, as both the MBT70 and KPz are moving up
Not really, because M774 only makes you able to pen weakspots better without rng screwing you and allows you to do more damage, it doesn’t make you able to PEN more things
XM1 should just go to 9.7 or 10.0 and get M774 then you cant complain
Tbh, it might work to give one of them M774 and move it higher than the other. That would at least give some significant difference between them
Edit: they already do this with a lot of other pairs of similar vehicles, mainly prototypes that are almost identical with production versions
Well they are based on devs dooings. On the contrary, did the M774 enter service before XM-1s were in testing?
It was being developed during the 70’s and offically adopted in 1980.
So it’s plausible that they would have required encorporating functionality with future rounds (looking at the m774 that was being developed and intended for adoption).
Edit, google searching says it was entered into production with intended compatibility with the xm1 tank and it’s eventual production variant of the M1.
Its certainly is the way they did it as i dont remember any specific modifications to L7 that made shooting some shots impossible
Still, Devs are inconsistent here. They gave the Type 16 DM23 APFSDS eventho japan never had any.
Seems the BS never end with Rus and China now the XM-1 (GM) and (Christler) need to fight Spike carriers 2S38 T-80UD ofc Modena and now every light tank pen you every ware with 0 aiming .
And can’t even hide because of no Smoke amazing Balancing
Acting like 80% of other vehicles didn’t get uptiered to…
Acting like you have clue . + 30 new vechicles as enemy with many of them can kill you with auto cannon not to mention Spike
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Well they leave T80UD - 2S38 T72B(1989) many spike carriers at this same BR dunno why but common now you have 8.3 - ammo at 9.7 BR just lol
2s38 not even need to aim at turret huge gap in gun manlet
3bm42 even pass the cheks in turret that susposte have choram armor basicly not need to aim at all entire tank is green
Dunno this BR chances suck over all for nato tanks
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the BR changes are fine the XM-1 is still one of the best tanks at its br even when you are hampered by american teammates
Ignore him. All he does is troll.
