mica is by far the best at 7km or less (i would even say that at 10km this thing is scary asf), is really painfull to deal with imo
but again, it is just a different playstyle, aim120 is for medium/long ranges, r77-1 is for short/medium ranges and mica is for very close to medium ranges, it wont get better for the aim120, i think the max that the later versions can pull is what? 40gs? maybe add some aim120c variant when they add stuff like su35, some similar chinese flanker, gripen E and also something for japan.
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- The F15E still is miles better than the Su30SM in Air RB and in BVR
- The Aim120C doesn’t add increased range. It just has clipped fins to fit in the F22
- The Su30SM 14.0 is behind the 3 top tiers, F15E, Rafale, and EF2000. Only one I consider being the worst 14.0 than the 30SM would be the F18C.
- As it is currently, the AIM120A/B = R77-1. Yes the R77-1 does have more range, however if the enemy moves in anyway, the R77-1 bleeds way more speed than the Aim120. Making them in my eyes, equals.
If anything, Top Tier air is biased towards NATO countries. The Su30SM FM is worse than the Su27SM, meanwhile, they finally get Amraam equivalents, which makes thinks more balanced.
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Instead of adding a new aim-120 variant they should try to fix what they currently have in game.
missile related
AIM-9 Series Incorrect Masses // Gaijin.net // Issues
AIM-9M lock range too low // Gaijin.net // Issues
AIM-120 Reduced Smoke Motor // Gaijin.net // Issues
AIM-120A - Seeker range too low // Gaijin.net // Issues
AIM-7M warhead // Gaijin.net // Issues
AIM-9M Sidewinder’s GCS color needs to be changed // Gaijin.net // Issues
AIM-120A & B - Max range against non-manoeuvring targets too low // Gaijin.net // Issues
AIM-9M should have 35g single plane overload // Gaijin.net // Issues
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That’s true France wouldn’t get it and so china
9ms that pull less G have no HOB capability and limited IRCCM…
Would you trade your R-73 for an Aim9M?
I hate this line of enquiry. 9M is the least flexible IR missile at the top tier meta.
You cant claim anti Russian biased when you have the 2nd best jet in game.
Su-30 is superior to F-15E and Typhoon (Typhoon is faster and has a superior FM)
But…it has half the missiles terrible countermeasures and 120s and 9ms.
Atrocious radar
120C has clipped fins it also tracks quicker off the rail there is no delay and has some HOB capability.
You would be right! However that is one envelope.
As ranges reduce the standard 77 and the 77-1 are superior.
They do things the 120 cannot do.
Only bad players die to a 120 in BVR…Yes it hold energy but not ebough to chase a jet that has gone cold. Too many players think they are safe and recommit and then get hit by that gliding 120.
What do you mean limited irccm ? You know R73 can get defeated by 1 flare if not launched correctly ?
Depending on situation yes. In GRB and SIM the Aim9M with smokeless motor is a menace.
Different missiles different playstiles, both very good.
You did not just try to claim that the missile with the most effective irccm in the game which requires a shit ton of flares and specific maneuvering to escape is limited irccm. By that logic R-73 has no irccm.
And before anything else yes I would trade HOBS and Thrust vectoring/higher G load for a more consistent missile when used properly which you clearly arent if this is your take away.
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9M at top tier isnt good, im sorry yes clowning on Su-25 in ground battles its great. Smokeless has it’s uses but when locked in a short range battle it cannot pull the G to even be a threat. And thats mounted to a Typhoon!
At close range the 9M is poor. Magic 2 and R-73 are superior. 9M is so easy to flare in front aspect and even rear drop some flares, pull some aoa get you out of the seeker and the missile will miss
R-73 in close range is far harder to flare.
lmao ok
Yes, you have to flare constantly because you don’t know when he launches.
You know how many people don’t even mind to preflare in headons and just die to it ?
Good thing it is a UFO then.
Wow, you got the differences between the missiles right, now go into the game and use this knowledge.
It’s the same as saying mica is bad, because it doesn’t have range as an amraam.
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Thanks for proving you dont know how to use a 9M, consistently put yourself in bad situations with that weapon and obviously havent used 73s either because you are now making shit up about its flare resistance.
You have done the equivalent of claiming an r-60m is bad because you tried shooting at things over 2.5km away, an impossible shot for that missile.
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I havent used the R-60M
I have used the R-73 and on the Su-33 the missile is better (more meta) than an Aim9M. 9M has to be used in more of a rear aspect it doesnt accelerate as fast as Magic 2 and R-73.
It cannot pull the G these missiles can and it has a nerfed seeker range and flare resistance. Should lock at 11km
Call it a skill issue all you like 9M at top tier is lacking.
Currently Typhoon has a long range Fox 3 and a medium range IR missile it has nothing in the close range.
Air RB it has a launch diamond like every other missile…until the motor burns out.
Typhoon isnt a UFO anymore, Rafale is though.
Please though keep getting your information from reddit or youtube.
120 is good but it is only good at long range.
R-77-1 is ok at long ranges, great in short to medium
MICA is the same.
120 is a one trick pony.
Both would get it, on F-16s. France already has an AMRAAM carrier, and China should have one.
LMFAO the cope is real.
that was my point
and that wont change even with later variants of the aim120
hi can somone help me
so they wont
totally forgot the f-16AM evexists bc nobody plays that thing
C version starts track time is shorter and it can pull more G giving limited HOB capability