Why does the Su-30SM get R-77-1 while the F/A-18C is stuck with AIM-120B?

Not sure how this is relevant or comparable

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Yes but gonna be good, 30km means consistent 30km plus kills, not 30km locks, as u can guide it with aircraft radar.
Similarly we don’t quite know how far is the lock range for other missiles. E.g. PL12 is equivalent to AMRAAM C (pre C-5 motor upgrade), so it is also nerfed to suite current game, differently China wouldn’t have a C-5 equivalent, jumped straight to PL-15, so I am just not confident in that case the game could be balanced if not extended to 1.0 + BR. Also just to say, there’s more compressed areas than top tier, so 15.0 could literally be in game RN.

Statistically INGAME (which is where that was referring to) they are the exact same missile, the only difference is that the 7M starts maneuvering before the 7F does, which in turn actually makes it worse

nope the 7f ingame has a smaller diameter which means it has less drag

I no universe is the su33 underpowered. Absolutely the best aircraft of the battle rating. In general flankers are really fun imo, su27sm is the worst and it does suffer alot until you get 12 missiles. Su30sm is great and su34 is decent.

They have the same seeker. Smaller diameter is completely irrelevant as far as affecting gameplay in a perceivable way

Lock-range 20 km, my guess

Personally, AIM-120C-3 and AIM-120C-4 equivalent

Decompression BR to 15.0 before add AIM-120C-7 in sometime 2026

Another 4th gen & 4.5 gen fighter aircraft 15.0 in the future

  • J-10B late
  • J-11BH or J-11BHG
  • J-15T
  • Rafale F4.2 (Rafale M)
  • F/A-18E late (Block II)
  • new F/A-18C with AN APG-79(V)4 AESA radar or
    F/A-18C+
  • F-16C Block 52 (post PoBIT upgrade)
  • F-15D Baz
  • F-16AM eMLU (RTAF & IDAF)
  • JAS 39 Gripen E
  • CF-18A HEP 2
  • EF-2000 & F-2000A Tranche 3
  • F-15C (APG-63(V)3 radar)
  • F-15E (AN/APG-82(V)1 AESA radar)
  • MiG-35
  • MiG-29M2
  • MiG-29KR (9-41)

Its definetly the better missile.

How is it the best missile? The range reslly doesnt matter past a threshold, dodging a 25+ kilometer shot is extremely easy. Like you dint need to notch chaff or anything, 2 cranks going cold and its done.

the 7f is able to pull more g more easy

It isnt. It wouldnt even make sense.

it does

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Again it doesnt have ANY perceivable effect on the game. Also point out they have an extremely minor difference in range doesnt somehow proove it can pull more gs faster

never said it can pull it faster,
I said it can pull it easier, ergo losing less energy because it has less drag

Doesnt affect gameplay, the difference is simply too small

my brother in christ,
the whole point was the 7m and 7f being identical i just proved you wrong on that

They are identical, a inperceivable differen in diameter doesnt change that. Youre being insufferable.

yes it does because they aren identical

the r-77-1 is only like a single percent better than the aim-120A/B

Where do you think I am referring to, IRL or Ingame?
Also, is a smaller diameter that marginal of a difference?

Please, for the love of god stop trying to argue something when literally it does not matter