The issue isn’t about giving the U.S. an ‘exclusive advantage’—it’s about fixing the imbalance that currently exists. Right now, the Su-30SM gets R-77-1s, which are vastly superior to AIM-120Bs, and this forces F-15E and F/A-18C players into an immediate defensive position in BVR fights.
If the AIM-120C-5 is too strong, then why is the R-77-1 allowed? If missile balance is a concern, then the R-77-1 should also be limited or adjusted accordingly.
Asking for balanced missile matchups across all nations isn’t about making one nation stronger—it’s about making sure everyone has a fair chance in engagements.
Well, this might be a bit off-topic but I really can’t wait to see Tornado F.3 Super-late which is armed with ASRAAM and AIM-120C. XD
(Ofc, only when game is ready for IIR)
Naah… I don’t think so.
I have only a handful of matches at the top of the top rank but needless to say, F-15E were a lot much scarier than Su-27/30SM.
I rather fight against Su-30SM than F-15C/E when I play my plane.
Hah I would love to see if turn out stomp every body in ARB I would have laugh my a*s off.
Can’t imagine entire team of SU-30 F-15 F-16 and J-10 got stomp by entire team of tornado arming with those it would be funny
because until they change how they model drag (and fix the crux of the r-77 derivatives being bad) the 77-1 is still worse than the 120a/b against anything other than bots and players that act like bots.
""aam4 and pl12 beat aim120 at medium{pl12} and really long ranges {aam-4} while mica absolutely crush everything in sup 15km and r dartr is beating 120b at until 25km so the ironically you are saying copium seems to project from you so please cheak yourself and your information first before speaking “”
The F-15E at 10,500 meters and Mach 1.68 fires an AIM-120B that hits Mach 4.30. Meanwhile, a Su-30 cruising lower at 7,000 meters and Mach 1.30 launches its R-77-1and that missile still reaches almost the same speed as the AIM-120B But people act like the F15e altitude and speed automatically make its 120B unbeatable against the R-77-1 Come on Even if the 120B edges out the R-77-1, it’d be by a tiny margin, not some landslide victory.
And let’s talk about the jets themselves. The Su-30’s slower at Mach 1.30, but that doesn’t mean it’s helpless. Being slower and lower actually lets it notch missiles faster and pull harder turns compared to the F-15E hauling ass at Mach 1.70. Plus, the Su-30 can carry 12 R-77-1s versus the F-15E 6-8 AIM-120B Volume matters in a dogfight you can’t dodge forever
That’s why the F18C needs the AIM-120C-5. The C-5 has better guidance close the gap against the R-77-1 especially since the Hornet isn’t as fast as the F-15E The 120B just doesn’t cut it anymore against in f18c please don’t say you saying add it to f15e I’m only talking about how f18c with 120c-5 actually a good counter to su30 r77-1
He complains about ‘R-77-1’ because he believes that it destroyed the balance and looks like Russian bias.
and suggesting ‘give AIM-120C to F-15E and F/A-18C’ for solution.