Why does the f-18c accelerate and climb better than the f-15c? Is this realistic?

I tested both aircraft. You can see that the F-18C is 40 km/h faster than the F-15C at the end of the runway, and it also jumps to a higher altitude in vertical zoom from 1mach at sea level.
Both planes are empty with 60% fuel. Considering that the F-18 has a more economical fuel consumption, the difference is even more significant.

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Check thrust to weight ratio, the F-18s TWR is higher, so it accelerates faster.

isn’t the F-18 10 tons lighter or smthin?

Yeah, according to the WT wiki, which it’s 19.3 tons, whereas the F-15C MSIP is 29.8 tons

WTF ? Its not true. IRL F-15C much faster and have better accelerate than any version of Hornet.
If it is not implemented in the game, then this is complete nonsense.

Well, I dunno. Ask Gaijin and its Devs.

If you have proof of this that is up to the standard of Gaijin then you can bug report it here (just search a bit first so that you don’t report something that is already reported and known about): (Gaijin.net // Issues)

A guide on how to report bugs can be found here: ([Navigation] Technical Knowledge Base | War Thunder Wiki)

The requirements for sources:
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Just read this

I’m tired of proving something to someone. Just read this article and know how real pilots laugh at WT.

Acceleration:
"“Hornet was fair but outclassed by many other jets.”

Climb rate

“Once again the Hornet was OK, but outclassed by F-14Ds, F-15C, F-16. The F-16s out at Buckley ANGB in Denver would do an Immelmann at the end of the Runway on takeoff. They had to hit a certain altitude which I believe was above 11K MSL. I tried to do it in a Hornet once (F/A-18C with a centerline tank and two pylons)… nope, I did not make it. I was wallowing around at 10K ft and 100kts trying to comply with Departure’s new instructions. Good thing the Hornet was forgiving and was good at high alpha flight.”

Well, pilot testimonies aren’t accepted as a source.

Aren’t first person accounts primary sources? If you want them to tell you the exact specifications of a modern plane still used by the military i don’t think that will happen, unless something like that is declassified (I wouldn’t know if there is an unclassified specification of the hornet) then that is about as close as you will get right? “One plane faster than other” still gives gaijin room to balance and whatnot, just don’t get the facts that are clearly obvious from these accounts wrong.

Does that make sense?

I just don’t get why gaijin wouldn’t accept it

Though I do understand that pilots might be biased or say something incorrectly, what if you have gaijin multiple sources of pilot accounts saying similar things.
That’s got to count for something right?

I do not know why they have the standards they have for sources, i just repeat what i have read/been told :)

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To be honest you’ll never see a pilot say anything bad about an aircraft operated by their own country. Maybe years later as an anecdote but not on recent aircraft. It’s just like everyone with the Su-57. You’ll never see a USA pilot say it’s good (as good or bad as it may be) however, they might think differently on older aircraft. And there’s also politics, an ally country won’t (usually) publicly say a plane is bad (and so goes on with its pilots).
So you can’t entirely base it on the pilots’ opinion, there’s gotta be leaks (joking).

Your test is off, the F-18C is 10 seconds slower to 10,000 meters:

Did you read it?

“The first time I flew against an F-14D was several years later, on a training detachment (or det) to NAS Key West. I was had a lot more experience by this point in my career. I was a recent graduate of Top Gun and had over 1,000 hrs. of F/A-18 time. You could say I was in my prime. We also flew completely slick Hornets. No pylons or drop tanks, just a training AIM-9 and a TACTS (Tactical Air Combat Training System) pod. This was the only time I fought the Hornet with nothing on it. A slick Hornet was a BFM machine. I found it amazing that the removal of the centerline tank and the wing pylons would make such of difference, but it did. The Hornet accelerated much faster and its ability to fight in vertical was even more pronounced. To say the Tomcat, even a newer one with better engines, was at a disadvantage, would be an understatement.
[…]
Too bad you would never actually take a slick Hornet into battle.”

So yeah
If you take a clean Hornet it will start to outperform things with better engines, like you did in test flight (in the Finnish Hornet C, which I think is even lighter)

That is not the best way to test your speed. Try to use sth like 15 degree climb. Also ensure both have same fuel load or roughly the same.