Why does the F-15E have a 22.5% thrust loss vs other aircraft

its a blatant double standard regardless. the tornadoes werent doing too hot either

Is it a double standard to give German aircrafts 9Js that they never used while MiG-29 is stuck with R-60s? Is it a double standard to place F-18A at 12.3 with better avionics, better sensors and more radar missiles at 12.3 while MiG-29 is at 12.7?

not really no. think about R27ER on those export MiG’s.

i think the R73+R27 is the best way to go personally, makes more sense than R-60 and R27ER

Oh, and final one - is it double standard that F-18 has positive channel loss, when MiG-29 has around 19%? To look at the same scope as this thread.

not necessarily double standard, but a severe inaccuracy

So it’s only double standard when it’s against US jet?

Ppl keep bringing this up and its an absolutely idiotic take.

Giving the German F-4F the 9J was a nerf the service missile for the aircraft was the AIM-9L. Literally nobody is happy with the 9J additions, the german players cuz the F-4F with 9J’s has half the missiles of other F-4’s and no other advantage, the rest of the playerbase is mad cuz they only have half the story and think the germans got a buff 🙄

its a double standard because they intentionally gave a russian jet a feature they typically deny for everyone else, but for the hornet/eft/rafale having such low channel loss its not a double standard, because its just an inaccuracy and the F-15/F-14/MiG-29/etc. all suffer from it

You do realise that with all-aspect sidewinders it will get br increase? It’s not like they will just keep it as it is but give Phantom 9Ls

What feature? People already said that it’s not a “emergency mode” of some sorts

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Who cares, itd be fine going up to 11.3 with the other F-4E variants.

  1. It has half the missile load of the other F-4’s (4 vs 8)
  2. All other F-4’s have access to front/quasi-all aspect missiles in the form of AIM-7 variants

Whats the alternative you propose, giving it the AIM-9F’s (the only other AIM-9 variants it used iirc) and dropping its BR even more?

I propose to stop whining about things unless they actually make an aircraft bad to play. Su-30 was given thrust buff not because “Russian bias” but because it couldn’t keep up with other 14.3s and keeping it at 14.0 would be unbalanced. If F-15E gonna get its channel loss reduced - it will go up to 14.3 because 13.0 should not face space shuttles with Fox-3s. It’s pretty simple logic to understand.

its still more than agile enough to take out a fighter

it still gets beaten in flight performance, it relies on its missiles and having a lot of them, which was never at risk. the F-15E however is totally reliant on its speed, it has nothing else really going for it

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5% push it from “die after defending against a single Fox-3” to “I can reliably stay on the defencive and don’t die”. Man, i thought people understang how the game works but oh well. F-15E before nerfs could just be invincible by doing 9G loops at Mach 2.5 and kinematically defeat literally everything that was thrown at it. If you want F-15E to go up to 14.3 - by all means go torture gaijin until they reduce channel loss.

im not asking for a pre-nerf F-15E, your putting words in my mouth now

F-15E still is very powerful when played right. Sure i saw like 5 of such people in past several days, most of F-15Es are either zombers or people that headbutt first Fox-3 that goes their way, but this thing is definitely not struggling. So, i’ll ask you again - what are you asking for?

evidence of 22.5% channel loss or adjustments to its flight performance to make it more realistic

Evidence of 22.5% channel loss is that it’s how it is modelled in-game. Going back to MiG-29 - people brought german manuals with installed thrust curves and gaijin simply ignored it, so this is best you can get. Mald, cope, seethe, do whatever you want - but gaijin never gonna give you any evidences, simple fact. And i’m sorry, but i never gonna take “make it more realistic” seriously, in a game where crew of 2 severely injured tankers would replace a canon breech in 40 seconds on the battlefield, or pilots casually surviving prolonged 13Gs.