Why does the British Harrier T.10 have such a rapid removal schedule?

The Harrier T.10 pack was only introduced in early March this year, but it will be removed right after the first discount sale of the anniversary celebration. This removal pace is unusually fast compared to past practices. Additionally, there is a possibility that this vehicle might transition from a pack vehicle to one available for Golden Eagles purchase, but it could also be like the F-4J (UK), which has not returned since its removal.

The Harrier T.10’s performance isn’t as strong as it may seem, largely because its targeting pod is particularly poor. Could its removal be due to low sales? Or is Gaijin planning to introduce a new British 11.7 CAS aircraft? If it doesn’t return after removal, British tree players might not have access to a new 11.7 CAS aircraft for a long time. Perhaps Gaijin is using this as an opportunity to introduce a new vehicle? But what new vehicle could they even add?

(This post is just for discussion and is not intended as criticism toward the developers.)


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I personally think removing packs is just plain dumb. Sure you get fomo but surely it would be more worthwhile to allow the packs to stay consistently available? Especially when quite a few people would prefer to pay to reach the top faster.

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It actually has nothing to do with FOMO in this case, but the psychological phenomenon of choice paralysis.
They want the store to be as limited options as possible to make choices easier for buyers.

Either way, probably low sales. Should’ve probably been a GE premium from the start.

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If they have to remove packs, I think making them ge premiums would actually be a good move and then the choice paralysis wouldn’t happen with packs

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They become GE premiums after a time, usually a few months.
It’s partly why I said FOMO doesn’t apply.

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So why did they remove the T-10 and not the Mig-21 BISON?

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Mig-21Bison’s getting sales probably.

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Unfortunately, that is what happens when you artifically nerf an aircraft and then ignore bug reports.

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There was a quote, from Smin I believe, in RnR thread that premium packs that sell well are kept in the store for longer.

Pretty sure this approach is true (hence why T.10 is removed and Bison is not), but I believe that devs also do that in order to force people buying higher tier stuff. E.g.: Japan’s only option in 2024 before Thai sub-tree was F-4EJ ADTW, not the best aircraft, then Thai AV-8S was added for 9.7 as a cheaper, lower rank alternative, and this summer we got F-2 ADTW as $80 top tier aircraft, and after this sale, Japan’s only option would be F-2.

I can see them replacing these premiums with other pack premiums (like they did with Soviet T-55AM-1), but the fact they remove them without introducing replacements right after…

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Vehicle have low sales → remove vehicle → every six months return it for purchase for a few days → profit

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Probably because it’s a Harrier, and with how Gaijin treats Harriers, few people would buy one.

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? Harrier 2 is one of the best subsonic aircraft for its BR.
That’s not the take to make there.

The Harrier 2 would have low sales whether or not its minor issues were fixed.

That’s just to comply with advertising laws.
They’ll be reintroduced as GE premiums in the future.

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They are also underperfroming considerably in most aspects.

  • Loadout
  • FM
  • Engine
  • CMs
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Loadout is identical to like-aircraft at the BR.
CMs are higher than aircraft of the same BR.
Engine is a minor issue, which should be fixed but it’s not causing issues for the aircraft.
FM of the Harrier 2s is currently extremely competitive, so any issues would be benefits, not fixing something that’s unplayable.

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Yes. However, the Harrier T.10’s poor targeting pod significantly hampers its CAS efficiency. This is why, despite having more hardpoints than the American AV-8B (NA), it is rated lower in comparison. If Gaijin were to equip the Harrier T.10 with a better targeting pod, more players would likely be willing to use it. (Unfortunately, even though the Harrier T.10 could potentially use the Sniper Advanced Targeting Pod, the UK never actually fitted it with a new pod in reality.)

By the way, if the Harrier T.10 is eventually converted into a Golden Eagle vehicle, the British tree would become the only nation in the game where players could obtain a relatively complete 11.7 lineup (Challenger OES, Rooivalk, Harrier T.10) for just 15,000 Golden Eagles during the anniversary sale. Moreover, it could potentially be offered as a bundle in future updates

It also suffers hard from being in an airspawn only BR. Before it would be quite good at getting to the match at the same time as the supersonic planes, but now they are just too slow.

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AV-8BNA and Harrier T.10 are identical BRs.
Both also have thermal targeting pods.

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Yes, but in the game, the AV-8B(NA)'s targeting pod is better than the Harrier T.10’s, which allows the AV-8B(NA) to spend less time acquiring targets compared to the Harrier T.10.

Yeah that doesnt help either

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its TIALD vs Litening II. Which is especially annoying when

A) It could have Sniper

Or

B) TIALD has the same thermal imager as the CR2s which is modeled as Gen 2. (Like a 2 year old report to get it to gen 2)

Let alone the fact the Harrier T-10/GR7 has to give up 50% of its guns whereas the AV-8BNA does not

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