I don’t understand why everybody says that Abrams get killed so easily because I play the Abrams and can survive many shots from every direction from multiple tanks. On the War Thunder Wiki when i looked what players said about any Abrams tank there is alway not good review for survivability, even on some videos on YouTube. But don’t get me wrong I also die sometimes on the first shot and I know about the weak spot on the turret ring but even if you get shot there you can survive a lot of times because you have 4 crew member. And I think that that makes a big difference because russian tanks have autoloader so they don’t have 4 crew member and gets killed almost always when the tank is penetrated. And when people rated russian tanks they would give them good survivability. Please tell what I am missing or if my information is wrong.
Sorry i just found that russian tanks have not great survivability from Wiki so sorry for that misinformation.
because people love complaining about anything they can complain about
you are basically correct about everything else with your reasoning
Might not be entirely true, but it might be due to the newer playerbase playing them before playing other tanks from other nations like France, Italy, Japan, China or Israel. That, and I don’t think many people will say their tank is survivable.
It doesn’t always reflect a comparison as whenever someone says their tank is not survivable, they might have not played other countries, so they might have not been able to compare them.
Oh, and there will always be the typical user who says their tank has got the worst armor in the game (be it true or not)
None of the mbts in game are really suvivable, abrams probably gets complained about the most because its the most popular tech tree and history channel lore.
Thank you everyone for your responses :)
Because you are using the right tank for yourself and therfore you are very good at playing it.
the average USA main is not a good player, the abrams is an easy 2nd place for best MBT in game.
USA players are extremely vocal and adamant to blame their tools and not themselves
I can’t speak for other people, but I can pretty confidently say that I one shot kill an Abrams 70-80% of the time if I can see it’s turret ring. The remaining 20-30% it’s usually mboility+firepower killed anyway.
There are a lot of factors though. If you play the Abrams hull down a lot you will usually survive more. Also not every player has equally good aim or knowledge of kill spots, so it is also very slightly based on luck.
Nation mains in general are usually mid at best. Watching nation mains shittalk is just watching mid bashing mid.
There’s a difference of armor and survivality. Survivality is understood as when you get penetrated and damaged. Abrams don’t have spall liner so it’s meh survivality, but better than Russian tanks
no armor, insane spall when get penetrated, huge artificial weakspot
Easy to say this when you’ve never played it, the turret ring breaks and starts a fire whenever someone looks at you
Because WT is played at unrealistic ranges with unrealistic accuracy and unrealistic aiming
Artificial weakspot? Have you seen a real life abrams? They do have that massive turret gap. You can argue about the turret ring thickness, but thats only going to apply to auto canons.
Tbf, it should also stop some spall instead of makeing it when penetrated. (Along with the fact that only 1 other tank has this “weakspot”, its an artificial nerf for now)
I do survive more in t72b(_/89) than in abrams tho, and they can keep a better performance after damage.
The Abrams suffer from multiple issues like the huge turret ring weakspot, Weak hull compared to its counterparts at the same BR, can be penned by literally anything, SEPV2 suffer from a weaker turret ring compared to the base M1 Abrams, hydraulic pump can be taken out easily and it prevents the turret ring from turning (30sec repair), the recent basket nerf made it even worse.
I’d say the Abrams (SEP,SEPV2) is the 5th best tank in the game, the HC is the best Abrams you can play at Top Tier, don’t even bother to grind for anything above the HC.
If those issues i mentioned above are fixed, it can easily be the 2nd best tank and maybe on par with Leopards.
I mean for good players it already is the 2nd best tank in game lol (if you group all 122s/2A7s into 1 tank).
Let me guess, your top 3-4 is Type 10, BVM and than either a 90M, Leclerc or Merkava?