Is that why M1A2T wipes the floor with every other Chinese MBT ?
Oh yeah, that definitely happens because their MBTs are oppressive, not because CAS can spawn as a first spawn.
Oh yeah, that definitely happens because their MBTs are oppressive, not because CAS can spawn as a first spawn.
Already debunked, it’s because of all the artificial buff eastern nations benefit from, including their MBTs.
Is that why M1A2T wipes the floor with every other Chinese MBT ?
Yes yes you’re right, Abrams dominate top tier. As a mater of fact, they’re the META, and that’s the reason why they’re the most used MBTs at top tier rn
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Actually no, those are the russian MBTs, because people know eastern MBTs are the best, and wanna play the best. Same reason why there are 85% of the player base currently queuing Russia at tiers 6/7/8, btw. Markets aka majority of people know what is the best to play, better than you and me.
Even with all those artificial buffs they still can’t outperform western MBTs, go figure.
M1A2T offers us an unique insight in how NATO MBTs perform in comparison to Chinese ones and let me tell you something, it’s not looking good for China and their oppressive eastern designs.
Conveniently ignoring the rest of the argument.
Large majority of people play russian MBTs, and queue for Russia, and it’s not a coincidence. People know the META, people play the META.
Also, Leos have bad winrates, so I’m guessing Leos are bad, and Abrams are better than Leos (lol, no).
TURMS was one of the most played tanks for a long while and it was pretty mid at it’s BR, so just thinking that more games played = better is extremely naive.
I doubt that average and below average people have an understanding of the meta, so no.
2A7V has ~5% less WR than SEP V2 but still has better K/D in the end.
Meanwhile, M1A2T dominates Chinese tanks in both WR and K/D.
Thinking that Chinese MBTs are OP, or even very strong just reeks of skill issues.
TURMS was one of the most played tanks for a long while and it was pretty mid at it’s BR, so just thinking that more games played = better is extremely naive.
TURMS are premium vehicles used for the grind only (and that’s why they were massively used back in the days), it has nothing to do with the actual META TT vehicles that people choose to play AFTER the grind, which happen to be russian.
Such a dishonest post.
Bottom line : after the grind, majority of people choose to play the META to perform, and what do they choose ? Russian vehicles. How surprising.
I doubt that average and below average people have an understanding of the meta, so no.
Sure, people are dumb, and you’re the only one competent here.
2A7V has ~5% less WR than SEP V2 but still has better K/D in the end.
So 2A7 has better KD than SEP V2, but M1A2T has better KD than 2A7, so which one is better ? Abrams I presume ?
Abrams are better than Leos, got it
You still don’t get it.
Average and below average players are in that group because they have limited understanding of the game, which is common sense.
Not understanding how stats differ between major and minor nations.
I expected nothing less to be honest.
That said, Italian 2A7 outperforms M1A2T, the same how German 2A7 outperforms SEP V2.
Guess what, all of those perform much better than VT4A1, which is supposedly a meta tank blessed by Gaijin’s bias towards eastern tanks.
But yeah, I bet Chinese MBTs are so strong and meta defining and are the only ones that can stand up to the RU bullies.
This perfectly illustrates how painfully average players can have a skewed/biased look at what’s meta/strong.
You still don’t get it.
I got it don’t worry, you realized you can’t counter this argument because this is the simple truth.
Grind vehicles aside, majority of the people choose to play russian vehicles because they are the META. Coming back to the subject of this thread, it means it is because NATO MBT armors are poop.
Not understanding how stats differ between major and minor nations.
I expected nothing less to be honest.
China is a minor nation now ? It’s 2K26 my man.
That said, Italian 2A7 outperforms M1A2T, the same how German 2A7 outperforms SEP V2.
Guess what, all of those perform much better than VT4A1
That’s in your head. I just proved you german 2A7 beats SEP V2 in terms of KD, but M1A2T beats 2A7 in terms of KD, which would mean Abrams are better than Leos : which is not the case.
Which means you can’t actually say anything thinking purely in terms of stats, because it has absolutely no sense at all, and that we can make them say anything depending on how we twist them.
So that statement of yours :
That said, Italian 2A7 outperforms M1A2T, the same how German 2A7 outperforms SEP V2.
Guess what, all of those perform much better than VT4A1
is in your head : it’s solely your opinion. I have the opposit opinion, which can be as valid as yours, which is that all eastern MBTs outperform western MBTs, for some reason.
Bottom line : China does outperform NATO, as well as Russia.
NATO MBTs cannot be poop when they hold the best MBTs in the game and for a long while.
Yes it is.
Leopards outperforming M1s isn’t just my opinion, as that’s backed up by global stats.
Maybe in the head of a painfully average player that struggles with almost everything he plays and is conveniently blaming tanks he doesn’t play for his woes, in an attempt to not feel bad about his skill issues. Don’t worry though, that’s one of the most common coping mechanisms in people and is easily observable in kids when they throw their “noooo, he’s not better than me, he’s just cheating” tantrums.
That said, you still haven’t produced a single piece of evidence that shows tanks like VT4A1, ZTZ99A or WZ1001 are indeed meta defining and are clubbing NATO MBTs.
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Italy has no Leopard 2A7. In fact, they didn’t ever operated any Leopard 2 hull. So far. There were rumors about Leopard 2A8 license production at Leonardo plants, but not even this is set.
Ppl forget that its just War Thunder Devs, who put it in Italian TT.
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Oh no, it’s a Hungarian 2A7 found in Italy.
Big deal.
Yes