Why can't NATO have a well armored MBT?

It’s not D tech armor, it’s C tech.

It is D-tech.

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C tech is said to have 600mm ke in the turret and 400 in the hull.

~420mm hull head-on, 420mm turret in an arc (~530mm head-on).

It seems like you’re right from what I could find, no clear data on protection values but it seems like it matches with what we know. D tech turret and C tech hull.

Barely. Composite block stops hits made in lower part of it and sometimes in the middle one. But side block is penetrated easily.
And yeah, armor profile is BEYOND HORRIBLE, while it clearly different IRL

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I love how Japanese designers made the hull stronger than the thickest part of the turret because logic.

Hulls need more love from West or western aligned countries.

IRl, its not like this. both hull and turret are strong and their armor profile is much bigger. But is japanese. So Gaijin isnt even trying to fix it or change.

Funny that you two are on the topic of armour block size, got me to check out the PSO and loo’n’behold:

Meanwhile 2A6 & 2A5;

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Just a visual difference, damage model area is identical.

Ignores that Miley agreed with the Russian assessment and that America subsidized a third world nations defense. How convenient.

Wiich they are obligated to by a treaty.

Promise* not treaty.

True i remembered wrong on the top of my head it was an agreement.
Wich is still an obligation that they honor.

The Russian Army has planned to mass equip the 2S38 “Bias Flow” tracked self-propelled anti-aircraft gun starting from 2022, replacing the ZSU-23-4 “Shileka River” tracked self-propelled anti-aircraft gun that has been equipped for many years。
plan2022.

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Not enough that they fill up our in game slots, but bots even necro our threads now, too :(

Because War Thunder is not a simulation. It is a cartoonish simucade that has to balance its, ah hum, “business interests” in maintaining a game that keeps its main paying customers happy. Guess where most of those are?

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its absolutely ridicolous lmao, Giant composites blocks on the side of the PSO have less Chem Protection than relikt, gigantic ERA blocks on the challenger 2 tes are worse than relikt, AZUR ERA Has less chemical protection than relikt, NERA Being completely useless. this is PROOF of bias, its complete and utter nonsense that relikt has more chemical protection than nato Era when that era is orders of magnituted thicker and more advance, its also utter nonsense that giant blocks of addon composites armor to be less effective against Chemical projectiles than relikt. its undeniable that gaijin has a clear bias for modern russian tech.

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is true…

Its a propaganda game, what do you expect?!

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NATO
Abrams with perfect mobility and pretty good armor and 639mm pen (now the reaload usamain skill optimalized) so u can get 5 sec reload
Leopard with excelent armor + spall liner and perfect mobility with 653mm pen
STRV122 A/B/B+ Insane armor + spall laner, joke mobility and 589mm pen
Etc…

RUS/CHN
T80 good armor, pretty good mobility with long reaload and joke 580mm pen (moving ammorack)
T90M good armor + spall liner, joke mobility and joke reload with 580mm pen (moving ammorack)
T72B3, good armor, joke mobility and joke reload with 580mm pen (moving ammorack)
ZTZ99A wrong modelled armor so the armor is not rly good but insane mobility, joke reload with 577mm pen (moving ammorack)
WZ1001 E LCT wrong modelled armor so this armor shiit too, insane mobility with joke reload and 588mm pen (moving ammorack)
VT4 armor its a trash with pretty good mobility, joke reload and 577mm pen (moving ammorack)

NATO MBTs more better then rus/chn mbt imo

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I dont want to be that guy, but NATO has a few more nations in game… And that Etc suggest the trend goes on… but does it?

Bla bla bla skill issue
any japanese mbt its a glass cannon and the tkx/type10 the best mbt imo but very skillbased
italy = trash, this is true
isreal pretty good and they have aps
leclerc have good mobility and reload speed with troll armor so…