Why Canada Should Be a U.S. Sub-tree in War Thunder

Why not?

Instead of an RAF one you just add the RCAF one. Changes nothing other than the skins. Obviously Britain did operate more upgraded versions, but specifically the 9.0/9.3 Hawk? Make it RCAF instead of RAF

Yeah, but was used in the British Army though right? So it could be added with British voice-lines and a UK flag or it could have Canadian voice-lines and a Canadian Flag. Just saying it should be the “canadian” one.

Which LAVs though?
Pretty sure there is some CVR(T) or ZA IFV for every gap/niche that a LAV could fill.

Wasn’t even thinking about planes right now, as the discussion was mostly about ground vehicles. The Arrow would fill the early SARH niche, but I can’t think of a niche that the Canuck would fill (beides being a SQV, event or premium vehicle). Their remaining (viable) planes would just be very slightly modified US designs though.

Honestly, I would also hope for the locally produced and modified aircraft like the Lancasters and Hurricanes in folders. Not to mention, I believe there’s another 2 skink variants that could be folder material.

Although it would be nice to see as many of Canada’s unique vehicles and mods in one place.

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I have no idea, but im sure they would be better than the ZA stuff we’ve got so far

The F18 and F35 is the backbone of the Canadian AirForce

F18 is far from “massive con and negative” lol. It’s a very affordable, small, agile, easy to maintain, reliable, and price effective fighter used by many nations. Idk where u got “massive con and negative” from

Specifically for australia they were a con mate.

They lost so much effective range across the nation using the F35

@Razielkaine can explain that far better than I can.

The F18 and F35 are* not is.

As well as this Britain are one of the main developers of said F35 , supplying 15 percent of the parts alone. Never mind the software that goes into it.

lastly My friend, you apparently cannot read, I am talking with an Australian, about Australia not about canada.

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And the US is the main developer of the F-35, not a great point to make

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We used the Hawk 100, with variants of AIM-9L/M, but even then, it relies much on the “it could use these” rule, unlike the UK, which I know used armed variants.

Indeed, hence why it should have British as an operator as they asked Canada and the US to make a SPH with the 25-pdr, Canada made on first hence why it’s a Canadian vehicle. So well, adding it with a Canadian operator wouldn’t be wrong; it should be British.

Canada doesn’t even have any F-35s yet, and barring the 16 we can’t back out of now, the order has been up in the air for some time now, with Canada looking at possible other options.

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I like badger but it should NOT be anywhere near 9.0

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oh lol mb, since we are on canada thread and i didt read any of your comment prior to that one so i didt know

Still mate over 100 UK companies are involved in the global F-35 program supply chain.
As well as this, Britain supplies the software to said plane.

Even a swift google search shows just how significant that involvement actually is.

theyre joint partners in development of the plane.

Do you think it’s too low or too high?

too high. id personally put it to 8.3 min but 8.7 more realistically

8.7 I can agree with, but 8.3 seems too low compared to other vehicles with 30mm Bushmasters, even if the Badger has a slower rate of fire and worse thermals.
It already is 0.7 lower than the VBCI, RCV and ICV and 0.3 lower than the CV9030FIN.

Not really, most of the software is done by Lockheed otherwise there wouldn’t be problems with Lockheed not wanting to give their source code to the Brits.

Also there are 1900 American companies involved in the F-35 so 100 British companies isn’t much

I know Britain is the only tier 1 partner and out of all the countries besides the US they had the biggest contribution, but it’s still by far an American aircraft

That’s fair, I’m just saying the LAV will be like a smaller badger

Honestly id balance based on fox and XM800T

While i think the fox should go back to 7.7 i think the badger is more so a stabilised fox and an ok inbetween to the XM800T in balancing, they all pen the same things at the same angles at the same range when used right and size is overrated

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I smell a lie

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No, they won’t get pen by a 50 cal

still, they will play in a similar way. also i wouldnt be sure about the sides on LAV 1 or 2 or even 3 vs. .50 AP, let alone .50 SLAP if they ever add it to anything other than the GAU-19 on helicopters