Hence the M42 Duster should be added to replace those paper tanks. Both paper tanks fight in the BR´s of early BW and the M42 fits perfectly as it is also in the armoury of the BW as intial equipemnt. Let them both go the way of the mouse. Hide in the back of the tree. There is plenty of replacments for them.
M42 isn’t a replacement for a 5.0 SPAA in the slightest.
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I dont believe they ever mounted the turret, the just planned on it. The chassis would be repurposed for the AKV 151, and the hydraulic suspension aiming for the proto strv 103.
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Heavy tanks are better balanced at rank 1-2 because they have strong armor, but weak guns to balance it out. You can tank hits, but you’ll also struggle to pen your opposition.
Rank 3 is when you start getting up armed heavies, but your armor is less useful, and most of the tanks you face can easily one shot you from the front.
By rank 4+, heavy tanks are almost entirely useless because of HEATFS/APDS/ATGMs and high pen guns on most lights/mediums that can one shot you from the front. You’re just a big slow target at that point.
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T26E5 has something to say about that.
Yeah, but it falls under the “weak gun” category since that 90mm is a gun for medium tanks at that BR, and it has similar mobility to the King Tiger.
Idk, the armor also gets more insane.
Few tanks can pen any 7.7 heavy tanks that focus on armor, using regular AP rounds.
At 6.7 you need, for the BR, the strongest AP rounds to even have a chance from the front.
While Maus, T32E1 and IS-4M are for the most part invulnerable to attacks from the front.
Which leaves TDs and light vehicles with HEAT-FS to pen their armor but even when you pen it’s not necessarely game over for them.
I don’t think any heavy tank is struggling at their BR, unless they are only facing uptiers.
For the most part light tanks are in a much worse spot, since they need to rely for the most part on mobility. But then you might just killed by an enemy light tank without achiving anything.
There’s no simply remedy like for heavy tanks, where you can avoid range or angle your armor.
Of course it just depends on the vehicle and what they face.
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I wouldnt call it a weak/small gun. Only a couple tanks it will struggle with. Just because medium tanks use it doesnt mean anything.
If British players can reliably cripple T-34s with solid shot to the turret then German mains have no excuse. Soviet and American players likewise have little difficulty dealing with T-34s and Churchills with wildly inferior guns.
Most of the Churchill’s are over tiered. Mk I needs to go back to 3.0, the 2-Pdr in a maximum downtier is incredibly painful. Your weakspot sniping against M4A1’s, T-34’s, Pz III M’s, etc. You’re supposed to be a heavy tank but even everyone else’s mediums at 3.3 feel like heavy tanks to it. Other 2-Pdr vehicles aren’t so bad because they have the mobility to flank and get side shots.
Churchill Mk III needs to go to 3.7. It’s got a 3.0 gun, even worse mobility than the Mk I, and you’ve got worse turret armour (lacks the weakspots but not as thick).
NA75 should be 4.0. It’s a side-grade of the Mk III.
Churchill VI is fine but it needs M61 APHE. Which was bug reported ages ago.
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No vehicle is worth removing. You wouldn’t steal Toys from a child, would you?
Lol. Prototypes are one thing, paper vehicles another. Gaijin’s Panther II was fake and serves no place in the game. It can come back in a more historical form.
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More real than the Ho-Ri tanks I guess lmao
This is basically people in general, and people sucks
You have two groups of people, one that already owned it will want to keep it and better yet it stayed exclusive and no one else could get it. And the one who don’t own it, and knows there is no possible way to obtain it, would go as far as suggesting that it should be removed completely, because why? “if I can’t have it no one can” mentality lol
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Gaijin added these vehicles into the Tech Tree for all to get and they are wonderful just the way they are. They have their place, just like vehicles like the F-117 Nighthawk, Churchill AVRE Petard, Sturmtiger etc.
Don’t like it, don’t play it, simple as.
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Gaijin seem to massively overvalue armour. Meaning heavy tanks with good armour but bad guns get overtiered. Same applies to armoured spaa’s. Just because they’re harder for CAS to kill Gaijin overtiers them to a point where their SPAA use is limited.
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Cough cough ostwind 2.
Now as a more fictional premium.
The Coelian was way more real
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Well, maybe they should change the turret armor to wood then it would be realistic lol
Cough cough IS-6 moment