Why are Heavy Tanks not allowed to actually function as HEAVY TANKS?

Unless playing wot or Something even more unrealistic that just doesn’t work

Stuff like the tiger 1 or Tiger 2h doesn’t even have weak spots (over the turret cheeks)

And most tanks just aren’t built to that specification
The Panther was penable by anti tank rifles
14.5mm and 20mm from the side so think the Russian AA truck and the Italian l3 until they added side skirts to the Panther

Tiger 1 can relatively easy be penned by short 75mm and UK 57mm guns if the distance and angle is right

Even the tiger fiebel(tiger Manual ) mentions the importance of angling

Not to mention if we would go after your example a good heavy player would just stomp an entire team of mediums and Light tanks

Why does it read like a wot imposter

Having an equal Numbers of heavys sounds Great in practice but that’s it
Just look at wot having 3 ebr per team doesn’t work because if one of teams got all bad ebr player’s it’s game over

Can’t even imagine in warthunder having 3 kv220 in a squad Fighting 3 tiger 1

I think at the mid BR between 6 -8 ,certainly 6-7 Heavy tanks when uptierd become useless.Only saved by an very good player.They exist to offer crew protection but in an uptier with much more modern vehicles they offer little to no protection.Same issue Iraq had when facing the modern NATO tanks with older Russian kit.Its a simple concept.

The BR system is the same throughout the game but it gets away with it at lower BRs mostly but where WW2 meet tanks from 10,20,30 years later BR faults become very hard to ignore.

Overnight your armour of 200mm is facing pen power of 300mm where as at “WW2” BR Armour thickness and enemy penetration capabilities are on par in a neck to neck race.So the IS2 CAN 205 mm or there about and the top German like the JT or Ferdinand have armour of 200mm so the game is on,its fair ,it demand tactics,good shooting ,a little battle between the players which may be fun.Then along comes the 7.7 beast with 300mm of pen and boom you are dead,good bye! no fun ,WTF etc etc

That is the issue or a big issue anyway for many.

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The developer balances the vehicles so that the average kd is 1. Therefore, heavy tanks die from a one shot like light vehicles.

For the publisher, the fact that you don’t have armor, recon speed and artillery is a nuance.

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What I say and what you understand are very different. Please read my comment again and don’t make people laugh at you. Wot impostor huh? I saved that quote, it is a nice one.

Are you aware of what people are talking about? And do you have an index solution for these complaints? Please don’t tell me “you have armor, you have weapons, it’s a matter of skill.” Everyone shoots average. Everyone dies on average in this game. The issue being talked about here is that all tanks are the same and this bothers heavy tank players. The things talked about are very different. I hope I was able to explain this to you.

Would you believe me? I played the game called wot for about a week and immediately deleted it. I just don’t want the same thing to happen to War Thunder. And believe me, I write these to make the game better.

The first half of your post, perfectly explains what happened to historical events and why Gaijin stopped doing them.

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I can,cause Tiger overpressures the KV-220 into breech meanwhile angled Tiger doesnt easily get penned by KV-220. So my bet is on Tigers.

Maybe you should try Japan 6.0-7.0
The Armor of a Heavy is pretty bad in warthunder
But it still gives a couple of advantages compared to Light and medium tanks

Protection against mg and some autocannons

Being slow also means more situational awareness and more stable gun meaning you get the first shot off

Being a Heavy means unless the heat throwers everything else still needs to aim
So do tanks with low caliber heat

Ligh tanks need to move alot to survive if they are getting shot by anything they are most probably dead

And there is a reason why heavys pretty much died in the cold war

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No it’s because my best performing tanks are overproportionally heavy tanks.

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What BR would you say is fair for the Tiger II(p), T34(USA), Tiger H1?

6.3,7.0,5.3

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Thank you for your anwser but I wanted to hear AKGUN01’s opinion.

bruh

Back to where they were. And Panthers back to 5.7 again.

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Lol
And what must T34 do againat IS-4M and others?

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The same T29 does atm at same BR with worse pen. Usually shoot the gun first,50cal tracks. But T34 can frontally pen IS-4 turret.

Might be lower T29 to 6.7, no?

And lol
T34 might just not kill, because of not apcr

The solidshot is enough to pen it tho. And T29 at 6.7 was absolute menace and still is at 7.0

Was, but now there is a lot of HEAT shells

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They were there even before tho.