Which jet should I go for?

WAIT… You can bring 27ET’s on other pylons than 3 and 11?

Maybe not my bad, i mean you probably won’t want to bring more than 2 anyways they are situational (sim is probably a different story). I mean things like 2 ET 2 ER, just 2 ET just 2 ER or 4 ER 2 ET etc. theres options for you to expierement and try out what works instead of just bringing full ARH + your fox 1, and it isn’t suboptimal.

I found the typhoon was a lot more boring to play, even if it was more fun to fly if that makes sense.

If you want a plane with a full ET loadout the su34 is great.

Ohh… In my experience, the 27ETs like to explode mid air more often than not. So I usually don’t even bring them on the 13.0 flankers. But if I could bring like 6+ that could make a fun playstyle to change things a bit

my bad the su34* it has 6 ET

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Actually I also have that one ready to be purchased, are you sure? Since in the loadout screen in only shows 27ET on 2 pylons.

I skipped that entire line lol. But I don’t think it would be much fun with that FM of a whale at 13.3. Also no IRST or HMD

The JF-17 is very fun, play like a rat as much as possible

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I always wondered if Fire Snakes worked in headons. Have you tried those guided rockets?

They dont as far as I can tell, not that you really want to headon anyone at 13.3

But you have 4 SD10 which is arguably the most comparable missile to the aim120, and 2 pl5eii which are concerningly good

SD10s are PL-12s. Decent range and pull, very well rounded and work in HOBS like a derby more or less. Pl5eii are worse magic2’s.

I only didn’t buy the jf-17 yet because I got the F-16D at 13.3 too, which has HMD. The jf17 FM seems fun, but having those sd10/pl12 without the ability to do HOBS with HMD would make me cry

I am aware, and theyre good missiles

They much better than the derby so even though the JF17 is slow i think its much better than the f16D especially since it has great nose authority so you barely need an HMS to shoot missiles at whatever target you want

What makes them much better?

In my experience they have similar range, but the derby accelerates a bit faster, pull is identical but I think the PL12 is slightly better at slow HOBS launches, maybe because it accelerates a bit slower.

PL12 has a bit more explosive payload. All in all, they are very similar. PL12 is much closer to the derby than the aim120 for sure

Great furball fighter, amazing radar, stupid number of missiles. Most fun I’ve had at top tier so far, most definitely recommend this one :)

Do you find the heavy and slow FM a big drawback, or do the missiles pick up the slack?

In the dev server I could out-push everything because of the loadout size, I spammed the r77-1 at long range just to gain positional advantage and kill a bunch of jets in the 2nd salvo. But I think the missiles were nerfed?

The FM performance can be annoying when you have to defend multiple times (one missile after another) or when you are too close to literally notch or turn cold in time, but you can kinda play around the weak FM with good positioning, I always make sure to have a bit of altitude and distance, in order to let the missiles do the job (talking about 15/20km).

The moment you have good position in the sky and you see the enemy furball that already formed on your radar, this jet can literally decimate the lobby.

I played the dev su-30 too and I don’t recall the missile getting nerfed in some areas, I might just misremembering tho

I read something about changing how the booster works, supposedly it was nerfed. Something about losing the 2-stage booster and instead having just 1 second more of the normal booster when compared to r77. Could be wrong.

That one second more of burn gives it 20% more delta V compared to the standard r77

Yes naturally. I’m talking about current r-77-1 vs its initial version.

The delta V did not change as far as I am aware

So I guess my plan is to have fun with the yak141 till I unlock the 30sm